Is this legal?

[chubbman]

You said 'hood kids', the term itself makes us think of underprivileged, impoverished areas (as well as our shitty thoughts about them). However, by the very nature of being raised in these areas they are already pretty much predetermined to a life of drugs/crime/etc.

I don't judge all people by the same standards. IMO if they had the resources for nike shit the local cops could have spent the time creating a competition for the kids to win the gear as a prize. In the same way as soldiers wouldnt be killed in SE Asia/Middle East if we weren't there, kids in the hood wouldnt be stealing shit if they were given the same opportunity in life as regular kids.

Summary- yes it's stealing, yes it is wrong, but there are worse things going on in these areas that could be fixed with a different approach.

Hood kids don't know the difference between right and wrong?

 

[Mike]

Obviously stealing is wrong, but this doesn't help to solve the issue.
You bust a kid, they get a record, and now theyre on that path.
There are better ways for cops to use their time and our resources.

America has enough people in jail as it is. How about attacking the CAUSES of crime? Guys are more worried about their arrest rates and stats than actually getting rid of crime.

People will be quick to jump in and say well you shouldn't steal. No shit Sherlock. It's amazing that in 2018 we still have people defending a punishment model that just attacks the symptom of the problem. Even tho we have tons of data showing that approach doesn't work.

 

[TheNinja]

It reminds me of those "bait bike" episodes on YouTube. The dudes would put a taser in the seat, cut the bike in half so it falls apart when you ride it, tie it to a tree, or cut the brakes and wait for someone to steal it...LOL.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

People will be quick to jump in and say well you shouldn't steal. No shit Sherlock. It's amazing that in 2018 we still have people defending a punishment model that just attacks the symptom of the problem. Even tho we have tons of data showing that approach doesn't work.

Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous.
Take the reply above yours for instsnce, "hood kids dont know the difference between right and wrong"? I see this stupid argument all the time on the right where they think they're the ones actually respecting minorities more. "Oh you think blacks cant tell the difference between right and wrong?"
Uh...that obviously is not what anyone is saying.

If you grow up in the projects in some places in Chicago, and another guy grows up in the suburbs of Orange County, they aren't going to see life, rules, and a host of other things in the same manner. This is so obvious that it's ridiculous it needs to be said. People living different lives have different experiences and views

I will be a lot less likely to commit crimes if i grew up in a 2 parent home away from crime, drugs, and gangs. I will be a lot more likely to get into crime when i live in a crime filled neighborhood with a single mom and 5 brothers and sisters living off of food stamps.
This isn't rocket science

 

[Rob Battisti]

Would prefer they spent the money going into school to teach positive thinking and life skills to get out of the hood rather than pop them for petty theft thereby perpetuating the cycle of inner city black youth being inprisoned.

I don’t see how this addresses the bigger problem at all.

 

[rj144]

What if they hypothetically filled it with textbooks? Would they still arrest them for taking a math book?

 

[90 50]

Of course crime will always exist, but i didnt say anything about eradication.

Tempting poor people to commit crimes isn't helpful.
Chicago is one of the most crime ridden places in the nation, and there are actual helpful things that could be done to combat crime. This isn't one of them

Maybe it is, in neighborhoods like these crimes by theft almost always go unsolved.

So they don’t see any repercussions for stealing shit.

Maybe this is to try and teach them a lesson that this is bad and you will get in trouble for it.

Lmao. Since when did 'unprivileged' and 'criminal' become synonymous in so many people's minds? There's tons of poor people who aren't pieces of shit.

I don’t get the black knighting here where people think just because you are poor it’s ok to steal and have no morals.

Would prefer they spent the money going into school to teach positive thinking and life skills to get out of the hood rather than pop them for petty theft thereby perpetuating the cycle of inner city black youth being inprisoned.

I don’t see how this addresses the bigger problem at all.

They’ve been trying that for decades, it doesn’t work.

What if they hypothetically filled it with textbooks? Would they still arrest them for taking a math book?

The text books wouldn’t have been fucked with.

Maybe they should do that next to prove a point.

Inner city kids put higher value on Jordan’s than they do books, or education.

Jordan’s won’t get you out of the hood. Education will

 

[minute bull]

The cops don't do this shit for fun, they do it when there are chronic problems with theft and B&E in neighborhoods. They do it for the law abiding citizens that live in these areas who have to live with bars on their windows to feel safe.

It seems more like wasted resources for questionable gain. Crimes of convenience, like putting a pile of shoes in front of a bunch of kids, is not the same as motivated theft. Hah, you thought it was free shoes but now you're all getting jackets instead!

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Maybe it is, in neighborhoods like these crimes by theft almost always go unsolved.

So they don’t see any repercussions for stealing shit.

Maybe this is to try and teach them a lesson that this is bad and you will get in trouble for it.



I don’t get the black knighting here where people think just because you are poor it’s ok to steal and have no morals.



They’ve been trying that for decades, it doesn’t work.



The text books wouldn’t have been fucked with.

Maybe they should do that next to prove a point.

Inner city kids put higher value on Jordan’s than they do books, or education.

Jordan’s won’t get you out of the hood. Education will

When you live in a neighborhood where getting beat up, jacked for shit, murder, and drugs are normal, and the police show up 3 hours after you called 911, no, cops doing things like this doesn't teach a lesson.
All this does is breed more distrust, and cause more issues.
It doesn't do shit to stem crimes in a shitty neighborhood.
Has nothing to do with "black knighting", it's logical thinking.
No one is defending crime. But throwing everyone in jail isn't the way to fix shit. There are better uses of time and resources

Lol also....ever been to a school in the hood? Believe it or not, all schools were not created equal. Studying in a Compton high school is not like studying in a Portland highschool.

It's easy to point out problems, harder to actually diagnose and fix them. There's a reason why Jordans hqve priority to education when you live in the hood and your mom didn't get past the 10th grade, and you don't even know what a SAT is
Crimes get solved less, and schools are shittier because there are fewer resources in the hood
Cops aren't rushing to solve murders in gang territory

 

[Mike]

Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous.
Take the reply above yours for instsnce, "hood kids dont know the difference between right and wrong"? I see this stupid argument all the time on the right where they think they're the ones actually respecting minorities more. "Oh you think blacks cant tell the difference between right and wrong?"
Uh...that obviously is not what anyone is saying.

If you grow up in the projects in some places in Chicago, and another guy grows up in the suburbs of Orange County, they aren't going to see life, rules, and a host of other things in the same manner. This is so obvious that it's ridiculous it needs to be said. People living different lives have different experiences and views

I will be a lot less likely to commit crimes if i grew up in a 2 parent home away from crime, drugs, and gangs. I will be a lot more likely to get into crime when i live in a crime filled neighborhood with a single mom and 5 brothers and sisters living off of food stamps.
This isn't rocket science

People have such a boner for punishing people. Deep down they believe it's as simple as right and wrong, good and bad, and you can just punish the bad out of people. It doesn't work though. We've been trying it that way for generations and there is just mountains of evidence showing it doesn't work.


Then you mention additional resources and social aid, better jobs and education, actually helping people, and people get so angry. No, let them do it themselves! A tiny fraction of people escape poverty, so everyone can! The problem is to escape poverty and the hood you almost HAVE to be exceptional, and by definition the vast majority of people aren't.


If you can eliminate poverty, you can eliminate the vast majority of crime too. Getting people educated and out of poverty should be the goal. But we're moving in the opposite direction. Mass creation of jobs people can't afford to live on, and the majority of those jobs will be replaced by machines in a generation at most. We're headed for a crime, mental health, poverty, and drug epidemic the likes of which we've never seen before.


It's unfortunate we don't have real leadership in this country trying to prevent that. As long as the check clears our government couldn't give a fuck where society is headed.

 

[Mike]

When you live in a neighborhood where getting beat up, jacked for shit, murder, and drugs are normal, and the police show up 3 hours after you called 911, no, cops doing things like this doesn't teach a lesson.
All this does is breed more distrust, and cause more issues.
It doesn't do shit to stem crimes in a shitty neighborhood.
Has nothing to do with "black knighting", it's logical thinking.
No one is defending crime. But throwing everyone in jail isn't the way to fix shit. There are better uses of time and resources

Lol also....ever been to a school in the hood? Believe it or not, all schools were not created equal. Studying in a Compton high school is not like studying in a Portland highschool.

It's easy to point out problems, harder to actually diagnose and fix them. There's a reason why Jordans hqve priority to education when you live in the hood and your mom didn't get past the 10th grade
Crimes get solved less, and schools are shittier because there are fewer resources.
Cops aren't rushing to solve murders in gang territory

Highest prison population in a first world nation BY FAR, and people are still saying just throw everyone in prison. It's mind boggling. People sneer at Europe for their "socialism", but they've realized just putting everyone in prison doesn't solve a damn thing. It it WORKED I'd be all for it, but prison just makes people better criminals and removes nearly all chances at rehabilitation and good jobs.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

when people keep saying 'they should put more money into the schools'....

have any of yall actually looked at which areas in the US have the highest per pupil spending in education? I'm assuming no, they haven't.....

 

[Mike]

Maybe it is, in neighborhoods like these crimes by theft almost always go unsolved.

So they don’t see any repercussions for stealing shit.

Maybe this is to try and teach them a lesson that this is bad and you will get in trouble for it.



I don’t get the black knighting here where people think just because you are poor it’s ok to steal and have no morals.



They’ve been trying that for decades, it doesn’t work.



The text books wouldn’t have been fucked with.

Maybe they should do that next to prove a point.

Inner city kids put higher value on Jordan’s than they do books, or education.

Jordan’s won’t get you out of the hood. Education will

Lolwut?" No they haven't. Schools in general in this country are in terrible shape, especially schools in the inner cities. We've had a government staunchly opposed to increasing social aid programs for decades. We have welfare and food stamps, which you can only get if you're not even working and trying to improve your life. So the only reasonable aid, you can only get if you pop out children and stop trying.

 

[method115]

You guys have never watched bait car? I believe it was mostly in Canada but they just left the keys in the ignition and then when guys would steal it they could shut off the car remotely and lock them in lol.

Nikes is petty theft though, pretty low lmao

Your a POS for bringing this up. Haven't done shit today at work.

These bait car people are fucking idiots. Every now and then you see the one partner that's like "fuck all that" and doesn't take the bait while his friend gets arrested.

 

[method115]

when people keep saying 'they should put more money into the schools'....

have any of yall actually looked at which areas in the US have the highest per pupil spending in education? I'm assuming no, they haven't.....

I'd be interested in seeing how they are calculating this. One thing I've heard is that when a school gets more money that they tend give it to the office workers instead of the teachers or supporting more school programs\supplies.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Highest prison population in a first world nation BY FAR, and people are still saying just throw everyone in prison. It's mind boggling. People sneer at Europe for their "socialism", but they've realized just putting everyone in prison doesn't solve a damn thing. It it WORKED I'd be all for it, but prison just makes people better criminals and removes nearly all chances at rehabilitation and good jobs.

Yeah, it is so fucked up the thinking that is prevalent in the states when it comes to crime. Throwing people in jail does NOT help society. It makes them harder criminals, or just stagnates whatever growth they could have had.
Once you have a record, good luck getting a good job. And now you are behind on everything, so there goes your credit, and taking care of your kids. This is just fueling the cycle

We should HELP these people so they can help themselves. But people want to scream "socialism!!" Like redneck morons

And very true what you said about the few people that make it out of the hood. Those people are the exceptional ones. Most people are not special. Theyre between stupid to averqge. And you're expecting that dumb or average guy to raise up out of the shithole he's in by himself? Because one guy did it, people will point and say "see, he did it. So can you "
Well, no. That's not reality.
I will never be Bill Gates, or Steve Jobs. Just like every kid from the hood can't be judge or doctor.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

I'd be interested in seeing how they are calculating this. One thing I've heard is that when a school gets more money that they tend give it to the office workers instead of the teachers or supporting more school programs\supplies.

oh most assuredly, administrative costs (or lets be real Corruption) no doubt absorb the brunt of that spending....

but the money is still 'going there' is my pt

 

[90 50]

When you live in a neighborhood where getting beat up, jacked for shit, murder, and drugs are normal, and the police show up 3 hours after you called 911, no, cops doing things like this doesn't teach a lesson.
All this does is breed more distrust, and cause more issues.
It doesn't do shit to stem crimes in a shitty neighborhood.
Has nothing to do with "black knighting", it's logical thinking.
No one is defending crime. But throwing everyone in jail isn't the way to fix shit. There are better uses of time and resources

Lol also....ever been to a school in the hood? Believe it or not, all schools were not created equal. Studying in a Compton high school is not like studying in a Portland highschool.

It's easy to point out problems, harder to actually diagnose and fix them. There's a reason why Jordans hqve priority to education when you live in the hood and your mom didn't get past the 10th grade
Crimes get solved less, and schools are shittier because there are fewer resources.
Cops aren't rushing to solve murders in gang territory

I lived part of my young life in very poor areas and went to 90% black schools, I know exactly what it’s like.

Have you ever had to go to school as a child, where to go to the bathroom you had to have your best friend go with you and fight your way to a stall? Then you both go in the stall and one has to hold the door shut while the other uses the restroom and then you swap? The. You have to fight your way back out to keep your lunch money?

I didn’t become a theif, and I made good grades.

And when my parents had the money to move I was behind at a better school for a while until I caught up, but if I had been out trying to steal Jordan’s and act like a thug I wouldn’t be where I am today.

You can’t blame the situation, it’s the upbringing that does it.

I’ve been all over this planet, and been to some areas with real mother fucking poverty, poverty that makes them look like they are living like kings and those people would give you food in portions larger than they eat for a week.

The inner city bullshit excuses is what perpetuates it, not the fact of being poor.

 

[DanSavage]

It's easy to judge the morals of a person when you're not living in the same shithole they are.
I wouldn't steal shit, but im also not poor.

I grew up in a shithole and I was poor. I was raised to not steal from other people no matter how much I wanted it.

 

[minute bull]

DON'T WORRY GUYS AFTERWARD THEY DONATED THOSE SHOES TO IMPOVERISHED LOCATIONS (OVERSEAS).