I have seen folks come on here and claim things like blacks commit more crimes because of racism while others argue that what we see as racism is because certain groups simply commit more crime and that they are just pointing that out. This is what's happened in London: Almost half of murder victims - as well as suspects - were black despite the ethnic group accounting for just 13% of London's population. White people in London make up 60% of the population, but only account for 35% of murder victims and 24% of murder suspects.... https://news.sky.com/story/black-murder-victims-and-suspects-london-v-uk-11443656 So, do you think that blacks in London are committing murders at this crazy rate because of the racism against them? And, do you think this actually drives racism itself? I guess it could be both.