Is there anyone in MMA that has impressed you with their boxing

Cracky said:
But, used in conjunction with good ground game, boxing can make the difference.

Penn uses his great jab to keep his opponents at the end of his range and dictate his fights...and for the most part, he does just that.. even drawing positive comments from people in the boxing world including Freddie Roach for his incorporation of boxings most fundamental punch.
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Penn's fundamentals are OK, but GSP still took him down at will and Frankie Edgar out worked him pretty easily.

I like Kenny and the Diaz bros are ok, use their range well and are accurate. JDS hasn't really fought a quick/motion fighter yet so jury is still out on him, it's easy to say he looks good when he's banging with guys standing still in front of him.
 
pulpduff said:
He looked sharp against Diaz, for sure, but did you see his last fight in Strikeforce?

Totally out of shape, slow as fuck, and just overall, terrible. I think his 15 minutes are up.

Randy Couture looked sharp in the first Liddell fight, but since then it's been a steady decline, and he's well past it now.

Gomi once upon a time was quite good IMO. He went to the body like an actual boxer. Sadly, he became a bit of a head hunter, and his overall skillset declined. Maybe he's rejuvinated though, we'll see. He's got the tools, surely enough.

Penn, and Rampage come to mind for me, as examples of good use of boxing skill. (Albeit Rampage is a bit schizophrenic having one good performance and one shit performance)

JDS looks terribly robotic and ponderous to me. Put in a boxing ring with even a journeyman and he's going to sleep. Can't argue with his results though, the man packs a punch.

Marcus Davis is reputed to be a boxer, but, honestly if he COULD hang, he would. He's really nothing special as a boxer, and likely couldn't crack the top 100.

Somebody mentioned Anderson Silva..... anybody that gets knocked on their ass by Chael Sonnen has shit boxing. Sorry, it's true. Delusions aside, Anderson's boxing is a shit sammich.

If you're watching mma to watch guys throw hands, you're watching the wrong sport gents.
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Your comment about Chael/Anderson shows your complete lack of understanding of MMA. When Anderson is fighting someone who he knows 99.9% chances are he's going to go for a takedown of course he is going to get tagged more, because he has to adjust his entire stance/hand level/ movement for TDD. Compare that to someone who is never going to take a shot (like the forrest fight).

That is exactly the reason you can never truly judge someones boxing skills aside from general fundamentals, which even still you can't judge very well depending on who they are fighting.
 
Meh.
Boxing in mma is not impressive at all.
The best you can hope for is some decent Muay Thai in my opinion.
Who cares if 1-3 guys uses a jab now,big deal.
 
Anybody say Pulver yet. He had good hands a while back.
 
Here's my list of MMA fighters that use good boxing:

JDS
Anderson
BJ
Nick Diaz
George Sotiropoulos (SP?)
Kenny Florian
Rampage
Vitor

People usually list AA but I disagree, while the guy has pretty good offense, his defense is crap. Plus he doesn't exactly have an iron jaw so that's a twin curse right there.
 
MMAmouse said:
I'd pick Chael in a boxing match over Anderson.
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Now that's pushing it. Anderson Silva's boxing isn't the most fundamentally sound and he relies way too much on his reflexes and timing but no way Sonnen outboxes him in a boxing ring.
 
LetUrHandsGo said:
Penn's fundamentals are OK, but GSP still took him down at will and Frankie Edgar out worked him pretty easily.

I like Kenny and the Diaz bros are ok, use their range well and are accurate. JDS hasn't really fought a quick/motion fighter yet so jury is still out on him, it's easy to say he looks good when he's banging with guys standing still in front of him.
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A huge WW like GSP putting Penn on his back has no corelation with BJ's boxing skill. And i'm going to have to disagree with you and the blind judges about Edgar. Edgar was by far the busier fighter with his footwork and flurries but Penn was timing him coming in and landing the cleaner and more effective punches. Why do you think D White called for an immediate rematch? Cause the dec was bs.
 
Anderson's a far better Muay Thai fighter than he is a boxer. What he did against Forrest was something any top 50 pro could have done considering that in terms of standup Forrest is nothing but a brawler.

The majority of MMA fighters come from Muay Thai/Kickboxing backgrounds so no surprise that their boxing skills are not up to par. That doesn't necessarily mean they are bad strikers, in fact some of them are pretty good. Shogun for example is a very good striker, he's got excellent kicks and a devastating clinch and overall MT skills. A good boxer? No but good striker overall? Yes. Likewise for Aldo, Crocop, Overeem with good MT/Kickboxing skills but not necessarily good boxing.
 
Likewise I think it's silly for some elitists to insult the overall low level of boxing skills in MMA considering that the fighters in that sport have so much more to train for. Specialists are obviously going to be better at their specialty than non-specialists focusing on a variety. It's like asking which restaurant will serve better Chinese food, a Chinese restaurant or some random cafe serving a variety of international cuisines?
 
I really admired the way Edgar dictated the distance against Penn, as well as Penn's timing and balance in that fight. When people talk about how the jab is just a range finder in MMA, this fight shows that the jab can also establish distance and set up offensive and defense.

At heavyweight, both JDS and Arlovski can throw heavy while keeping their bodies over their feet but sometimes show elementary defensive flaws.
 
Dos Santos easily. With enough training the guy could compete as a professional boxer. Got to give a nod to BJ, also being that Freddie Roach once called him the best hands in MMA.
 
lukewall said:
Now that's pushing it. Anderson Silva's boxing isn't the most fundamentally sound and he relies way too much on his reflexes and timing but no way Sonnen outboxes him in a boxing ring.
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Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that when they fought Anderson had nothing on Chael hands-wise.
 
MMAmouse said:
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that when they fought Anderson had nothing on Chael hands-wise.
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I'm not so sure about that. Aside from the first round, when the rounds started and Silva pressured Sonnen; Sonnen was in trouble until he put Silva on his back.
 
Kenny Florian and Bj Penn easily.

Nick Diaz has highly over rated striking...
 
well kj noons and jds has the most versatile attacks. alot of the japanese fights have pretty good boxing. like boku.

besides the obvious like silva, penn, and florian.... i think george sotarapolus (sp?) can apply the basics very very well, problem is he has no pop.

theres alot of good boxers in mma... just nothing AMAZING.
 
gomi looked pretty good last time out, i'm a fan of Noons as well, he put on a fucking clinic when he fought Nick Diaz.

and also you have got to give machida props, he has a fantastic straight left hand and has put away some good guys with that punch. I like Paul Daley's bazooka left hook too.
 
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