Is the UFC in a permanent decline in talent pool?

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  1. spacetime

    spacetime Black Belt

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    Biggest names now are the same as 7 years ago. Light heavy weight division is dead. Heavy weight division is pretty dreadful. Boxing with Canelo drew more money than the biggest UFC fights.

    No real consistent stars like before.

    Where have all the athletes gone...? Will it eventually go the path of Kickboxing? Become more and more marginalized and irrelevant?
     
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  2. wilKO

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    Canelo drew more money than Conor vs Khabib? Oh really???

    But yes. UFC is dying. Fajitas conned WWE.
     
  3. Lint2

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    Well, I suppose that's the outcome for USADA and all that folk wrestling boringness.

    UFC is dying bro...
     
  4. MAGNAT

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    Hw is always dead. And when there is one alpha, that division is dead too (lhw). When Jouni gets old, lhw is great division again! Like Mw is now!
     
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  5. spacetime

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    Will it eventually reach the point of K1 Kickboxing, which is not even shown in my channels anymore?
     
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    It's been dying for years now.
    I wouldn't say permanent especially since they've been grabbing some really good A+ level athlete from Africa. Check out Adesanya and Ngannou. Look into it bro.
     
  7. spacetime

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    LHW used to be a fantastic division.
     
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  8. Gabe

    Gabe Saturdays are for the Boys

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    They could always promote exciting fighters instead of WMMA.
     
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    FW to WW has more talent than it ever had before and LHW and HW were always comparatively weak talent pools.

    To grasp this you have to grasp the difference between "fighting ability" and "star power".

    As much as I always dug watching the heavier lads smash each other even I could admit they were overhyped in terms of P4P talent due to our collective bias toward SPECTACLE and the fact that bigger dudes wailing on other bigger dudes = more spectacle.
     
  10. chrisdiaz

    chrisdiaz Brown Belt

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    No you just dont pay attention to the up and comers. This thread gets made all the time and its simply just you not paying attention to the next wave of talent.
     
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    Heavyweight being weak is nothing new. The 205 lb situation is the result of Jones/DC annihilating everyone in their combined path, resulting in their being few promising contenders leftover. None of this means the sport is dying, or that there is a lack if stars. Is normal.
     
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    It's the opposite of a decline in talent. One or two fighters lording over a division means a dearth of talent. When things aren't consistent that means there is more competition.
     
  13. spacetime

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    We still have Cormier, Jones, and Stipe as the best fighters. 2014 called..
     
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    I spend half my day on here and they still somehow pull off cards where i haven't heard of 90% of the fighters.....
     
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    it's a bad sign when Latifi and Gian Villante are in the top 15
     
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  16. spacetime

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    Isn't that the only one?
     
  17. Kumason

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    Idk or remember TS but it makes sense that I have him on ignore.
     
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    Their circus promotion and lying to the fans was never going to go unpunished. Even if you can’t see the negative impact in the short term, it’s still there. Little by little, more and more people start to not take the sport serious.
    Going for the short term cash grab, at the expense of the integrity of the sport works in only one scenario...if you can keep the circus going on and on. And they can’t. They are trying to play both games. And it doesn’t work.

    While they are bypassing fighters for title shots, putting out false rankings and lying to the public, they are missing opportunities of letting natural stars and elite fighters progress and grow.

    This downfall was inevitable and 100% the fault of their own. There are consequences with the fans and the fighters.

    And for anyone that says the UFC isn’t in decline. Just stop. It’s no where close to as fun or interesting as it was back between 2004-2010. Not even close.
     
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    I don't know if it's permanent decline or just decline. Dana thinks he can keep pulling cheap fighters from Dagestan or maybe he'll find countries we've never heard of (some kind of weird H1B unofficial visa fighters). PPV's are in the toilet and even though I like the contender series it should be illegal to almost force fighters to go for finishes. It makes the sport more exciting but the fighters will pay for it later in their lives (see Diego in 10 years....scary). There's still some great fights but Reebok and now ESPN are a very bad sign for this company.
     
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    Gian Villante can only be top 15 if they have 15 or less fighters in the divison
     

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