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Is the dawn of a Fighters MMA busness model opon us with Jones leading the way?

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  1. milliniar Who needs a belt?

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    If Jones is really trying to change it he will need to press some kind of charges against Zuffa, or wait for them to do it to him.
    Then stand by his guns while it goes through court and not settle out.
     
  2. PorkPiePusher Loro Piana cashmere belt

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    Dana has benn smart to stifle any sign of sindicalism an to promote a rich merit based reward system. If Jones leaves, someone else steps in, gets a bonus to smash Machida and Shogun, GOAT talks are planted, Jones falls into obscurity as the fighter that ducked, 151 is blamed on him by Dana.

    Zuffa has a chokehold on all quality MMA the same way WWE has a chokehold on all high tier 'rasslin. If Zuffa falls, all MMA reverts to "human cockfighting" and regional minor leagues.
     
  3. skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    he doesn't need to press charges. Change will be catalyzed by his popularity and refusal to submit to Dana. It's like when Luke said no to Palpatine.
     
  4. skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    UFC fans are incapable of escaping the wrestling and WWE paradigm and mindset. the difference between wrasslin and MMA is that MMA is a sport. The proprietor content of a sport is the sport itself and its athletes. While WWE is basically a production studio whose productions are whats sold.

    Good fighters fighting in a prison yard will draw an audience. UFC adds nothing
     
  5. IIIIIIII Titanium Belt

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    fedor never struck me as the kind of guy that would drop down to fight smaller guys. it seems to me, that for him it was fighting the biggest guys in the world, or nothing. fedor wanted to be the baddest man on the planet. only the heavyweight champion can claim that title.
     
  6. Aas Gutú Adéli Plutonium Belt

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    Pressing charges is for criminal matters.

    The legal action would instead be UFC trying to enjoin Jones from fighting elsewhere.

    Jones isn't exactly the most beloved fighter either.

    "Go get some fans!"
     
  7. PorkPiePusher Loro Piana cashmere belt

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    UFC adds legitimacy undreamed of, Pat Healy and Justin Wilcox were as amusing as all hell to watch in SF, and Rockhold, Mousasi and Jacare were so good that are now ruining the UFC established MWs where ever they can - I don't remember them ramping up the SF rating.

    UFC is and always will be closer to the WWE system than the boxing system, due to the one big money player whose wallet and will have built up all of MMA as we know it today (PRIDE fan, but UFC is much more deserving), and said big money player now relies on nothing but a roster based system - if someone is not on our roster, he doesn't exist until he gets on our roster - see Fedor for reference. This is also the staple of the WWE system, type of product plays no role in the end when roster control is everything.

    Jones leaves, NIKE leaves him, he's the star athlete no more - simple.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.
     
  8. Magooglie Steel Belt

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    Only if Jones forms a union. If not, he's just an anomaly.
     
  9. Aas Gutú Adéli Plutonium Belt

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    Only if Jones announces that Team Jackson is forming a Union, with GSP in the mix.
     
  10. Magooglie Steel Belt

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    [QUOTE=Aas Gut
     
  11. skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    LOL Nike Sponsors JONES, not UFC. Nike doesn't want to be part of the UFC brand, they want to be attached to JONES.


    the WWE studio system is not sustainable for MMA, just like it wasn't sustainale in hollywood. eventually stars eclipses the studios because people are paying to see the fighters.

    Keep drinking dat UFC koolaid lil breh
     
  12. IngaVovchanchyn Plutonium Belt Platinum Member

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    Exactly. This is why ABC shows prison fights every weekend.
     
  13. Andrew784 Blue Belt

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    The Jones business model is everything MMA fight fans don't want. UFC isn't stupid, overcompensating fighters mean no progression for the sport. You pay someone that amount of money, then they lose and ufc is forced to pay someone else that.. vice versa. We can't be like boxing. Jones coming off his last two fights only had over 300,000 buys for each. That's really freaking bad for both the ufc and jones case to bargain with. Do you need to give Jon names to even draw 500,000 these days like Sonnen..idk. Bones is elite but, until the viewers give him respect then UFC has to oblige.
     
  14. You are wrong. If Jones left the UFC a massive media s candle would happen with top fights likely a ufc champ wanting to fight Jones in another Org. Dana would let it happen and it would be the Randy couture Fedor thing all over again. The UFC would lose big time.
     

  15. We don't need progression for the sport, Zuffa needs that for their bank. All the fans need is to see that very best fighters in the world fight each other.
     
  16. Aas Gutú Adéli Plutonium Belt

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    Just like UFC lost and Fedor vs Randy happened in M1 and UFC has never been the same since!
     
  17. moreorless87 Straba

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    Where I see it potentially helping fans most is in attracting more talent. In the current model you need to work your way up for several years to get the big money(and even they its only right at the top) but I think in a fighter led model that could happen earlier and led to more guys from sports like kickboxing, Judo and maybe even boxing giving MMA a try.
     
  18. Veco18 Orange Belt

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    I don't know if I'd want guys who punch each other in the face for a living to be in charge of this industry.
     
  19. TS, you heard Baby Jay left the UFC as champ many years ago?
     
  20. Andrew784 Blue Belt

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    Progression in expansion around the world not just here in America. UFC still hasn't even hit below our border yet! If UFC overcompensates fighters then we lose fights ,not gain them. It costs a lot of money to run buildings and such the expenses for expansion around the world is a costly experiment only UFC at the moment can really do. A lot of work to be done to legitimize the sport around the world.
     

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