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He seems to be about as bright as a Neanderthal
Is Rouisimar Palhares the biggest
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He was the first human to submit Fitch since his first couple pro fights. Also the first to submit Shields those are some of the best grapplers in mma history. He would be fringe top 10 in the ufc and brings insane intensity either getting stopped with strikes or winning with an incredible joint lock.
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I agree with him, it's weird beating Hughes for the WW belt was an incredible achievement but it lead to watching his sad WW beatdowns. I think if he stayed at LW his whole career he would have been on the winning side of even more awesome fights. I guess going up to fight bigger people is part of what makes him a legend though.
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He's a Paul Heyman guy
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Beating Sheilds on the ground was very impressive though. Shame it got completely overshadowed by the fouls.
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His ancestors were so good at leg locks they never had to evolve.
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Seriously. "Palhares subs Shields" shoulda been a mind-blowing brainfuck headline, but it's totally deflated by "multiple eye pokes, held sub after tap again, and got punched after the bell."
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Not the biggest, but he's up there. Kerr was probably the biggest waste of talent I can remember off the top of my head. A genuine monster more powerful than the sport had ever seen and talented to boot, and he lost it all to pain killers.
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He was very talented, excellent merging of high level wrestling and submission skills, but there may not have ever been a bigger roider than him in this sport...and that's saying something. He was an absolute fucking cartoon.
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He won because he's the superior submission fighter. Landing a kimura from the guard like that and rolling someone has nothing to do with eye pokes.
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Waste of talent is an understatement.
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Palhares' one run in ADCC includes more top wins in submission grappling/BJJ than Jake Shields has had in his entire career.
Palhares' BJJ > Shields
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Oh, you're just some Paul Harris fan boi lashing out with posts, hoping something will stick.
Don't care. Paul Harris > Shields > GSP > Fedor > Ali > PositiveBalance.
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He was very talented, excellent merging of high level wrestling and submission skills, but there may not have ever been a bigger roider than him in this sport...and that's saying something. He was an absolute fucking cartoon.
I agree but since he fought in an Era where PED'S where basically legal (and sometimes were) I don't put an asterisk by his name.
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What?
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Like him or not, you gotta respect his grappling skill. The guy is an absolute MONSTER on the mat. I learn all kinds of things from watching him fight. He's dirty as hell, but i'll watch him fight whenever he's fighting.
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This right here. People want to just believe he's an a-hole but the truth is he is a product of his environment. If it was just mean-spiritedness then you'd think he'd cut it out after getting in so much trouble for it.
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He was very talented, excellent merging of high level wrestling and submission skills, but there may not have ever been a bigger roider than him in this sport...and that's saying something. He was an absolute fucking cartoon.
No question, but before he was roided up that way he was #11 in the world wrestling freestyle at 220. He gave Kurt Angle one hell of a match even in losing, and if you watch that match he looked like a monster even at 220 (probably walking around at 230 - 240). If anything I'd think that additional mass mostly hindered his talent and movement, and probably made him more reliant on brute force.
The Angle match for reference:
http://www.flowrestling.org/coverag...k-Kerr-1995-World-Team-Trials-Philadelphia-PA
I think all the roids, and the pain killers were just physical manifestations of mental weakness. It's sad, because he had crazy potential.
