is pushing underrated in a fight?

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  1. Human Bass

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    So, in the game The Last of Us, when Joel is in a brawl and a opponent will counter you, you can counter by simply pushing the opponent, it obviously doesnt hurt the enemy but neutralizes his attack.

    It really made me think how a good push can frustrate an opponent, it is easy to hit, it undoes the base forcing a big reset, therefore creating openings.
     
  2. Darth Shlong

    Darth Shlong District World Champion

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    Push it to the limit - Rick Ross
     
  3. snakeybizz

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    inb4 brendan schaub gif
     
  4. Human Bass

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    I mean a real manly push :icon_lol:
     
  5. GKY

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    I've used a push to set up a double leg before. He was in a traditional wrestling stance, I pushed him and his torso went more upright, giving me the space to dive for the legs. I'm no Brandon Shaub though.
     
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    Almost all of grappling can be distilled down into pushing (and pulling).

    Yes, it's effective.
     
  7. Sexy Pants

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    I was in a fight over 10 yrs ago and I honestly got that good O lineman push elbows in at the sides and launched this dude a few feet. The guy total changed his demeanor. After that happened.
     
  8. Jaxx

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    Yes, push/pull....action/reaction.
     
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    push but don't make too much space between you unless you have longer reach
     
  10. EndlessCritic

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    pushing surely has a purpose in combat.
     
  11. bLikeWater

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    Pretty much any time they start to win the clinch/grip fight, pushing off and resetting to neutral is a good option if you can.

    I feel like disengaging in general is actually a really important skill, and again, it should be one of your primary reactions whenever you're not winning.
     
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    Was about to post similar. a good manly push can take the fight right out of someone
     
  13. Bayonet

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    There's a hell of a lot of psychology behind 'social violence', as some people call it.

    If someone just silverback-shoved me ten feet through the air, I'd probably tuck my dick in and back down.
     
  14. biscuitsbrah

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    Yup. Pushing has stopped 2 fights for me.

    First one my good friend got in my face, I pushed him on his ass and looked down upon him. He stopped trying to be a tough guy and apologized.

    Second one this guy attacked me and after I controlled him on the ground for a while, I pushed him off an 8 foot drop. He stopped fighting after that.
     
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    Sparring MMA definitely woke me up to this fact. The same applies from guard, as well- there's no reason to stay in a position where you've lost the advantage.
     
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    Pushing is a natural ritualized way people start off fights. When in on the playground, arguments turn into shoving matches before fists and takedowns.

    Pushing is a good way to gauge your opponents balance, quickness and explosiveness, and to showcase your own, and is the initial phase in which you can either bow out or take it to the next level.

    If you can establish yourself in the shoving match, the opponent will usually back off because he sees how explosive and strong you are. If your opponent cannot push back as hard it is usually a good indicator that he cant hurt you either unless he is playing you.
     
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    Really no different than something you'd see on Animal Planet.
     
  18. georgegreece

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    do you mean the 4 inch movement you do with your pecs? because real pushing comes from the legs and abs... also the pecs are pretty useless when you punch the deltoids are doing all the work so that wouldnt be an indication of punching power except for the haymaker punch and that's nothing to brag about
     
  19. Steve08

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    Shoving is a very effective way to re-establish distance and has been used to notable effect by such names as Cro Cop and Fedor Emelianenko.

    Usually in MMA sparring if a guy tries to get inside of punches I'll try to push him away then move to reset distance.
    I agree 100%. In mma I see guys fail to get TDs against the cage and then just stay there so freaking often, which to me makes no sense and is the EXACT time that one should disengage.
     
  20. Matsukaze

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    Push it.....Push it real good
     

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