Is Phil Davis the best current UFC fighter to never have had a title shot?

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  1. ethanfranklin

    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    Well go on wins.

    Davis has 3 wins against the current top 10.

    Stann
    Gus
    Boetsch
    Lil Nog
    Prado
    Maghales
    Machida

    Werdum is up there.

    Jacare is up there.

    Anyone else?
     
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    Good picks.
    The only other one I can think of who's in the same caliber is Cormier.

    Davis himself though lacks that killer instinct and resume to really be 'one of the best' in this regard.
     
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    DC, Grant, Lamas, Swanson all off of the top of my head
     
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    jacare just got here.
     
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    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    Hes been given a title shot, and his wins are no where near as impressive as Davis'

    He shouldnt be ranked above him either.

    Hes beaten zero people in the current top 10.

    Davis has beaten 3.
     
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    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    Based on what?

    Wins are the measure here.

    Davis has 3 wins over the current top 10.
     
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    I'd say that Werdum and Glover are higher up on that scale than Davis is..

    ETA: if only just barely
     
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    Glover is one of the most overhyped fighters in UFC. He has nothing to offer against Jon Jones and he's gonna get crushed.
     
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    Glover has zero wins against the current top 10.

    Davis has wins against Machida, Gus and Nog.
     
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    Right now I'd say Werdum, but Davis is right up there with him.
     
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    I'd put Cub Swanson ahead of Phil Davis. Werdum too.
     
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    ...wouldnt last a minute with him.
     
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    Werdum has no shot at the title IMO, he got crushed by a young JDS who i believe is way better now and theres no way he beats Cain
     
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    He's defiantely up there but I think bisping is also up there
     
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    The UFC's top ten?
    I know it's a personal thing, but I don't think lil Nog belongs in the top-10 (and his presence there is a sign of the division's weakness rather than his own strength), and Machida (a fight many think Davis lost) has just dropped to MW.
    The Gus victory was three years, and 8 fights ago.

    I can see the argument, but even so, in-cage performance should (in my opinion) be taken into consideration.
    Glover's looked better than Davis has, and is riding a crazy win-streak.
    Davis' last five are less impressive than Glover's.

    Werdum has beaten two of the top-10 (one of whom was the last title contender) in his previous 5, as well as having taken out the former HW #1 in that span. His loss to Alistair Overeem was hardly the thrashing that Rashad gave Davis.

    ETA: I won't argue the Glover point too much, because his competition hasn't been the strongest, even though Davis has look pretty awful in most recent outings, but I don't think that Werdum can be placed lower than Phil, based on recent history.
     
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    aldo doesnt fight like that anymore. aldo finishes him maybe but not in a minute
     
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    well I was taking skill into account

    but still Lamas beat Swanson, Hioki and Koch all in a row

    Swanson beat Oliviera, Poirier and Siver

    DC beat Barnett, Bigfoot and Mir

    Grant I guess only really beat Maynard
     
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    His arms looks huge in that pic oO
     

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