Is media bias in the United States pushing you away from left wing politics?

[Falsedawn]

Do you think he sounded right-wing when he posted this in February?:



If not, I could give you some more. Crazy that anyone fell for the OP. Partisanship is a brain-rotter.

Oh look, Falsedawn was right again.

Righties, leave my money in my hand.

 

[Ares Black]

Do actually believe this?
Like, no BS.......Do you really believe that because what you're say is simply fucking laughable. It's laughable dude....smh

It's the truth. The mainstream media doesn't promote left-wing politicians or policies at all, in fact they suppress them. The media might seem like it has a left-wing bias to a right-wing person, but that's a matter of perspective, not reality.

Spoiler Alert: The DNC is not a left-wing organization. There is a progressive wing off the party, but corporate democrats and the media that supports them are not left-wing.

 

[jx820]

"Hey guys, I'm left wing, but here's a bunch of right wing talking points."

Ok

This is the problem with pretending there are just 2 options(not that I believe OP just speakign generally). Some people have a wide spectrum of beliefs across social, cultural, economic, religious, and personal beliefs. We try to indoctrinate everyone into one of two platforms and the fallout gets weird (E.G. Florida passing a progressive min wage policy while voting for Trump).

I'm a dyed in the wool Bernie Bro but I frequently get pissed at some episode of some TV show, or a song, or a book getting pulled because it contained something that may offend someone. Not because I'm a bigot, but because I feel artistic expression should be a higher priority culturally than echo chambers.

 

[mmafan2000]

I will start out by saying that I try to stay as close to the middle with my political views as I can, and would identify as left of center. When it comes to actual policy, I'm pretty left leaning. I'm not religious, and I tend to trust the government far more than the private sector. I care more about the environment than I do about the economy as well. I wouldn't say that I'm anti-capitalist, but I do feel that this country would run better under large sweeping government social policies than it would with private insurance companies and large corporations simply because of how big this country is. I honestly don't agree with the right on a whole lot when it comes to actual policy.

Anyways, where I don't side with the left is more culturally. I absolutely fucking despise PC culture, cancel culture, and the perpetual outrage the left creates over EVERYTHING. I think the wage gap is horseshit. I think white privilege is real, but far overplayed. I think male privilege is a fucking joke. Nobody has it better in this country than a white woman, yet they bitch the most. It's this type of stuff that prevents me from identifying as being liberal, but out of everything that turns me off about the left, media bias is at the very top though. I mean, it's just so blatant and in your face these days, that it's as if they don't even try anymore. Watching most news or TV programs on any major network is like watching some shit from another planet. Sure, the right has Fox, but the left has literally everything else that's mainstream. It's hard to watch some shit that you just saw with your own eyes like buildings on fire and dudes getting stomped out only to have some maggot reporter of journalist describe it as "mostly peaceful." It's hard to read about the threat of "white supremacists" (I've never met one) when black gangs in my own city kill each other practically for sport every weekend, and white liberals cause millions in destruction of property over false claims for entertainment purposes. The spin is just insane these days. Add to this that Internet search engines are just as bad. It's as if when you search for something that the left doesn't want to be acknowledged, Google will correct your thoughts and educate you on how you need to think or what you should believe with articles that will counter what you just searched. It's fucking wild that this isn't talked about more, but most of my left leaning friends have such a righteousness in regards to their politics, that they won't acknowledge any of this. It's really pushing me away from left wing politics, but I feel like there's no other direction to go because the side that I probably identify with more ideologically with all this believes in nonsense as well. It's just a different type of nonsense.

You are very similar to me. Anyway, as the radical left move more to the center, I compensate by moving more to the right.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I haven't seen that post in February I am just going by what he posted in this thread.

@Hatorade

Why do you think Trump is the greatest Potus?

And is the left real cum?

What he posted in this thread was a bunch of dumb GOP propaganda that he weakly pretended was coming from someone who is left-leaning.

 

[High Altitude]

This is called the “Tim Pool syndrome”

Tim must be doing well.

 

[Hatorade]

Do you think he sounded right-wing when he posted this in February?:



If not, I could give you some more. Crazy that anyone fell for the OP.

Obvious troll post is obvious

I'm far more left leaning than right. You can't really support stuff like socialized medicine, gun control, or lax immigration policies and call yourself right wing. I didn't like Trump before he was president, much less now.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Obvious troll post is obvious

I'm far more left leaning than right. You can't really support stuff like socialized medicine, gun control, or lax immigration policies and call yourself right wing. I didn't like Trump before he was president, much less now.

Your whole posting history in the WR is trolling, then.

Most or pluralities of Republicans don't agree with their own party on policy. Identity politics dominates the right in America.

 

[ShinkanPo]

What he posted in this thread was a bunch of dumb GOP propaganda that he weakly pretended was coming from someone who is left-leaning.

Is TS wasting my time?

Should I let @Falsedawn do some Sea Lion stuff on him?

 

[Ares Black]

This is the problem with pretending there are just 2 options(not that I believe OP just speakign generally). Some people have a wide spectrum of beliefs across social, cultural, economic, religious, and personal beliefs. We try to indoctrinate everyone into one of two platforms and the fallout gets weird (E.G. Florida passing a progressive min wage policy while voting for Trump).

I'm a dyed in the wool Bernie Bro but I frequently get pissed at some episode of some TV show, or a song, or a book getting pulled because it contained something that may offend someone. Not because I'm a bigot, but because I feel artistic expression should be a higher priority culturally than echo chambers.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Preach, brother!!!

 

[HomeCheese]

The mainstream American media does not have a "left-wing" bias. They are corporate centrists to the core.

Couldn't agree more. The media is more concerned with maintaining the status quo. It's the media that paints things like universal healthcare as liberal ideas or socialist when actually it's a basic human right in a country as rich as the US. The media makes it seem like pie in the sky socialism.

 

[forum poster]

Do actually believe this?
Like, no BS.......Do you really believe that because what you're say is simply fucking laughable. It's laughable dude....smh

Corporations are not 'left' by design. If they were, they would be antagonistic towards themselves which wouldn't make sense would it?

 

[bobgeese]

I think we can make a clear case that the media is cancer to everyone.

In the case of the election, much of the MSM, social media, and big tech, benefits democrats.

However, let's look beyond the election and see that the aforementioned are awful for everyone. Absent of much, if any consequence, they are spying on us, sharing data with advertisers, censoring in a biased fashion, being intentionally inciting for clicks/ratings etc...

I don’t know man, they’ve been pretty great for Diane Feinstein’s pocketbook.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Is TS wasting my time?

Should I let @Falsedawn do some Sea Lion stuff on him?

Look at this: " I care more about the environment than I do about the economy as well. I wouldn't say that I'm anti-capitalist, but I do feel that this country would run better under large sweeping government social policies than it would with private insurance companies and large corporations simply because of how big this country is." That's how dumb right-wingers think that liberals think, not how they actually do. Similarly, you have to be a pretty extreme right-winger to think that the MSM in America is left-leaning. And conspiracy theories about Google searches and stuff puts you in nutter territory.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Tim must be doing well.

He’s balding with a terrible hairline and wears a winter hat all year long to hide said baldness. He’s also a political hack no one takes seriously.


If you think that’s “doing well” I have this boat with holes I’m looking to sell. It is also “doing well”

 

[Hatorade]

Your whole posting history in the WR is trolling, then.

Most or pluralities of Republicans don't agree with their own party on policy. Identity politics dominates the right in America.

It's not. I don't know how much politics I've talked over the last few years on here, but I'm sure you can find posts of mine arguing with religious folks or gun nuts. Those seem to be the only discussion i get in on with politics these days. I've been arguing and agreeing with you for like 15 years on this thing. I used to talk a lo of politics back in the 08 election. You could probably find short books of me bitching about Bush.

 

[Hatorade]

That's how dumb right-wingers think that liberals think, not how they actually do. Similarly, you have to be a pretty extreme right-winger to think that the MSM in America is left-leaning. And conspiracy theories about Google searches and stuff puts you in nutter territory.

You're still a fucking partisan dumbass after all these years. Fucking sheep never change

 

[Falsedawn]

This is the problem with pretending there are just 2 options(not that I believe OP just speakign generally). Some people have a wide spectrum of beliefs across social, cultural, economic, religious, and personal beliefs. We try to indoctrinate everyone into one of two platforms and the fallout gets weird (E.G. Florida passing a progressive min wage policy while voting for Trump).

I'm a dyed in the wool Bernie Bro but I frequently get pissed at some episode of some TV show, or a song, or a book getting pulled because it contained something that may offend someone. Not because I'm a bigot, but because I feel artistic expression should be a higher priority culturally than echo chambers.

Problem is that the framing of the argument is entirely wrong for a leftist in center-right America. You're talking to someone who skews out of the current overton window, I'm not unfamiliar with being politically unlanded so to speak. But what I generally don't see is "Boy I sure love the concept of social ownership, but BLM just rubs me the wrong way" or "I'd love to decentralize ownership of private enterprises, but I don't really like that whole subsidized healthcare thing". To someone who actually consumes leftist political theory, that is a big ass red flag lmao.

So yeah, there's not two sides, but when you show such a fundamental lack of understanding of the side you purport to represent, questions are gonna be asked. The people accusing me of being partisan for questioning OP are actually reinforcing the 2 party structure by assuming it as a baseline. I assume as a matter of fact that there's a disaffected left wing because I know them personally, and nobody with a brain is changing their opinions on social ownership because of MSNBC or CNN.

 

[Deleted member 579584]

Ah, such an enlightened centrist you are. This is your second post in the thread and the mask is already slipping lmao.



You might tolerate sea lions, I club them over the head.

Ignore that there is no mainstream left wing and that the media skews decidedly neolib, it becomes even more absurd. MSNBC is the "left" network and they treat Democratic Socialism like Stalin rose up and was duck marching through the streets. That's left bias?

you cry so much it makes me laugh.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Look at this: " I care more about the environment than I do about the economy as well. I wouldn't say that I'm anti-capitalist, but I do feel that this country would run better under large sweeping government social policies than it would with private insurance companies and large corporations simply because of how big this country is." That's how dumb right-wingers think that liberals think, not how they actually do. Similarly, you have to be a pretty extreme right-winger to think that the MSM in America is left-leaning. And conspiracy theories about Google searches and stuff puts you in nutter territory.

How so? It may not be mainstream left talking point about supporting sweeping government social policies but I think leftists would support that right?

What am I missing?

@Hatorade are you talking about Nationalization of key infrastructure?