Is Lomachenkos Dad the most successful trainer right now?

[Stormtrooper85]

Arum is scared to death of Haney

So yeah

Honestly it's better to do it now while he's still young but if Loma is really moving back to 126lbs my interest in him will diminish further

 

[Hagler]

Yeah but here's the thing


You guys aren't average sherdoggers, you all seem to post about history, which says you're students of the game to some degree.

But on the flip side there are now people who actually believe Spence is worse than they thought after beating the best Shawn Porter we've yet to see....I'm speaking more to those ones

Dunno if I'm an average sherdogger or not, but claiming that Spence's stock dropped after a quality win is kind of weird indeed.

 

[aries]

I can't wait to see you guys when Lomachenko loses for the 2nd time in under 20 fights


THAT is gonna be fun

Who is going to beat him?
Mikey Garcia has a decent shot but he doesn't want the fight. Only other's are Tank and Lopez but both are still relatively inexperienced. We'll get to see Teofimo vs Loma but I don't think Lopez is the man to beat him. And Haney as well but he's not experienced enough either.

He could certainly lose to bigger men but he's not going higher in weight as he is already outsized at 135.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

I can't wait to see you guys when Lomachenko loses for the 2nd time in under 20 fights


THAT is gonna be fun

that first loss was laughable though tbf. I've never seen a fighter land so many low blows and not have points taken off or a DQ. It is a loss but we all know that there is more to it. If anything it showed Lomas naivety in the pro ranks because that fight would've ended up as a DQ in the Amis

 

[Selenky]

I can't wait to see you guys when Lomachenko loses for the 2nd time in under 20 fights


THAT is gonna be fun

hahahaha I was gonna own you for this dumb idiotic comment but then I saw you quickly got owned by other posters for it so there's no need.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

WOW ' scared'!!!!

Why do you people ALWAYS have to actively be searching for a Great Black Hope to beat Lomachenko? Why not just chill the fuck out, stop bringing race into sport and enjoy an ATG's career.

Arum has put Lomachenko in with Gary Russell Jr (in his 3rd fight), Guillermo Rigondeaux, Nicholas Walters, Jorge Linares, Luke Campbell, Orlando Salido( in his second fight), Roman Martinez, Jose Pedraza, etc etc....... But Somehow he is 'scared' to put him in with some green little unproven wannabe Mayweather kid who'll probably just end up the same way as Amir Imam, Erickson Lubin and all these guys as a hypejob fraud lol! Get in the real world mate.

"Get it the real world mate"

 

[eternaldarkness]

It’s still a lot better than Henry Armstrong’s start.

2 losses in 20 fights is a lot better than 1-3 in your first 4.

Please don't compare runningchenko with "homicide" Henry Armstong.

 

[4daLuLZ]

I can't wait to see you guys when Lomachenko loses for the 2nd time in under 20 fights


THAT is gonna be fun

losing 2 times in near 20 title defences / fighting top 10 guys at his weight..........which is a class or two above where he should be ?

yeah....that'll be crazy. Never ever happened before.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Training amateurs =/= training pros, you have to be very different in your approach. He's done well acclimating but a lot of that is on Loma's shoulders as much as his. He also doesn't train Usyk, might've worked with him while he was on the Ukrainian national team and advises him in camp but Usyk has always been adamant about having his own head trainer, first Bashir, then Vatamanyuk and I believe he's currently with Russ Anber.

As far as best pro trainers I think Garcia is the first guy who comes to mind, McGuigan is working with a lot of good UK talent and Freddie is still doing well for himself even though he's past his training prime.

Russ Anber is just the hand wrap guy / assistant coach by his own admission.

 

[Yacob]

Please don't compare runningchenko with "homicide" Henry Armstong.

He was a late bloomer though in fairness

losing 2 times in near 20 title defences / fighting top 10 guys at his weight..........which is a class or two above where he should be ?

yeah....that'll be crazy. Never ever happened before.

You missed the point. You're this far in and still don't get how sherbros think.


Manlet detected.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Manlet detected.

 

[aries]

Please don't compare runningchenko with "homicide" Henry Armstong.

You could come up with a decent nickname that makes sense, surely? Running, when Loma is probably the most offensively minded boxer in the world right now.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

I've never thought of this question til now, which likely speaks to his (Anatoly's) character; he doesn't try and soak up any of the spotlight. Like a perfect referee, you barely notice him.

 

[eternaldarkness]

You could come up with a decent nickname that makes sense, surely? Running, when Loma is probably the most offensively minded boxer in the world right now.

Just takin the piss. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Loma, but I do respect his abilities, he's is an offensive artist. I just don't like how he fights when he's on the back foot. But if people insist on calling him a p4p all time great, I will be forced to say stupid shit like everybody else is. I'm just trying to be part of it after all.

 

[aries]

Just takin the piss. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Loma, but I do respect his abilities, he's is an offensive artist. I just don't like how he fights when he's on the back foot. But if people insist on calling him a p4p all time great, I will be forced to say stupid shit like everybody else is. I'm just trying to be part of it after all.

Ok well it's probably my fault for thinking that nicknames should have some small semblance of truth to them.

 

[eternaldarkness]

Ok well it's probably my fault for thinking that nicknames should have some small semblance of truth to them.

Or that people should make sense when they say things. P4P all great... cough...

 

[aries]

Or that people should make sense when they say things. P4P all great... cough...

I don't see him not being a current P4P but all time? No. He needs to beat some big names first. I don't see many people calling him all time P4P.