Is Jon Jones the Best MMA Wrestler In the UFC? (POLL)

An ankle pick isn't a single leg...

It is. You're 'picking' a leg to attack, ankle in this case. It doesn't matter if you're going low, mid or high, though many do differentiate between them and just call a mid level single a single leg. Here's the UFC's glossary definition of ankle pick...

Ankle Pick
 
When wrestlers differentiate between a high-c (high crotch) and a single leg, they're only differentiating about the grip level on the leg and nothing more. It's tedious and I hear it all the time. I stopped differentiating years ago, and some wrestlers don't bother with doing it either.

Well, no. It's more about head position. A high crotch is with the head to the outside. A single is with the head to the inside.
 
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Before GSP torn his first ACL, he may be the best wrestler in MMA. He was fast, had a great timing - he still have after the cirurgy but he lack some of his explosiveness. He could pass guard very well.
 
Well, no. It's more about head position. A high crotch is with the head to the outside. A single is with the head to the inside.

In wrestling that's how they teach it and execute the technique, yes. In MMA they often prefer the head on the outside. Sometimes MMA fighters will specify it as an inside/outside but many won't distinguish the head positioning. Usually though if it isn't inside then it tends to be specified when referencing one. You're still attacking a single leg with a single leg TD and a high-c TD, and the grip level can be the same, and the head positioning can be the same as well. In fact, you'll see a lot of MMA wrestlers shooting with their head to the outside on their singles and double legs (and there are a couple different reasons for why this is).

If you shoot and your knee doesn't touch the ground, it's still a shot for a takedown whether you do or don't touch down with the knee. As long as your head isn't down facing parallel to the floor/mat and in tight to their body then it's position, inside or outside, is not important. Most wrestling coaches will always tell you to shoot single legs on the inside because that's how everyone learns it in wrestling and they don't want you to leave space by having your head on the outside when teaching the technique.
 
1)Demetrious Johnson got ragdolled by Cruz
2)Cain got taken down twice by Brock
3)Jones got takendown and outwrestled by a Swedish striker
4)Weidman got taken down by a nobody bjj guy before the UFC.
On a serious note though I would say the best mma wrestlers have to be either Jones or GSP based on their performances against high level wrestlers in mma.
 
In wrestling that's how they teach it and execute the technique, yes. In MMA they often prefer the head on the outside. Sometimes MMA fighters will specify it as an inside/outside but many won't distinguish the head positioning. Usually though if it isn't inside then it tends to be specified when referencing one. You're still attacking a single leg with a single leg TD and a high-c TD, and the grip level can be the same, and the head positioning can be the same as well. In fact, you'll see a lot of MMA wrestlers shooting with their head to the outside on their singles and double legs (and there are a couple different reasons for why this is).

If you shoot and your knee doesn't touch the ground, it's still a shot for a takedown whether you do or don't touch down with the knee. As long as your head isn't down facing parallel to the floor/mat and in tight to their body then it's position, inside or outside, is not important. Most wrestling coaches will always tell you to shoot single legs on the inside because that's how everyone learns it in wrestling and they don't want you to leave space by having your head on the outside when teaching the technique.

No. You shoot a single leg to the inside because you're using your head to bump your opponent onto his back leg while you snatch up his lead leg.
 
...2)Cain got taken down twice by Brock....

Brock is no slouch wrestling, but I'm getting you weren't being too serious (plenty of elite wrestlers get taken down in wrestling...yet they still win, hence elite status...unless your last name starts with Karelin, then you're a legend)
 
Bones mauls wrestlers. He just out wrestled one of the best in MMA.
 
You should take into account the circumstances, DC was exhausted and would've been taken down by others if they had the said energy level that Jones had. Also, Jones only seems to shine with his wrestling against smaller shorter opponents when he has the extreme leverage advantage. It showed against Gus.
That said, GSP had the best MMA Wrestling.

The 6'4 Stephen Bonnar, and the 6'3 Jake O'Brien say hello...
 
Not sure for me but his rastlin is damn good
 
Nope. Jones got taken down by Gustafson twice and Gus isn't even a wrestler.
 
Jones is way up there along with Cain but I think prime GSP had the best MMA wrestling I've ever seen. His shot was just ridiculous circa UFC 100. There are other smaller weight guys like Cruz (when healthy), Mendes, Edgar etc. who are very good. Jose Aldo also has very underrated wrestling but he doesn't use it that often besides TDD which is elite.
 
Yes. Jones is the most dominant but his talent has more to do with his unique physical structure than training... he's kind of like Shaq that way in that Shaq is concidered one of the all time best basketball players but you cant teach 7'-1" 320lbs, same as you can't teach 6'-4" 205lbs with a 84.5" wing span... thats his greatest gift and what makes him the best wrestler... but that doesnt make him the most talented wrestler. Jones can dominate with less talent than specialists like DC.
 
I can't vote on this because how can you say someone is better than Weidman when he hasn't been stopped

Also GSP had this crown before retiring
 
If it weren't for the Gus fight, I would probably say yes. I think Weidman's the only stud wrestler left who hasn't been taken down yet.

This is the top 10 TDD updated 1/6/2015 Requirement is a minimum 20 take down attempts by opponents.

1 Renan Barao
100.0%
2 Tyron Woodley
95.0%
3 Jon Jones
94.6%
4 Dennis Bermudez
92.3%
4 Gleison Tibau
92.3%
6 Eddie Wineland
92.0%
7 Robert Whittaker
91.7%
8 Ian McCall
90.0%
9 Rory MacDonald
88.9%
10 Jose Aldo
88.7%
 
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