Is it necessary to go to Brazil?

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SAMURAI SPIRIT

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Hello guys:

I know that this has been discussed earlier but my situation may be a bit different than most people who want to travel somewhere to train.

I have had the pleasure of training with some of the best guys under one of the best instructors on the East Coast and I never believed that traveling somewhere to train was really necessary until my game started to improve. Now I am exploring the possibility of going somewhere for a couple of months to train. This wont be any time soon but in another 2 - 3 years as I may need that much of time to save the money. I want to travel not because I am interested in cultural aspects of a place or because of chicks or beaches or parties or the brag value but only because of the following reasons:

1) I would like to in at least 5 hours a day for 2 months and my present school does not offer that many classes.

2) Would like to work with higher belts (brown and black)

3) Need 2 months away so that life does not interfere and all my energies could go into BJJ.

Is Brazil still the best place to go for the above objectives or is there a place in USA where the above volume of training can be had with high level competitors? I was told that for a 10 day getaway USA is cheaper than Brazil as there is no air ticket. But for longer stays (2 - 3 months Brazil) would be the same cost as USA because cheap no frills accommodation can be rented in Rio and if you cook for yourself and eat out once in a while it would turn out to be the same cost as going within USA for that long.

Can anyone please shed some light? Thanks.
 
SAMURAI SPIRIT said:
Hello guys:

I know that this has been discussed earlier but my situation may be a bit different than most people who want to travel somewhere to train.

I have had the pleasure of training with some of the best guys under one of the best instructors on the East Coast and I never believed that traveling somewhere to train was really necessary until my game started to improve. Now I am exploring the possibility of going somewhere for a couple of months to train. This wont be any time soon but in another 2 - 3 years as I may need that much of time to save the money. I want to travel not because I am interested in cultural aspects of a place or because of chicks or beaches or parties or the brag value but only because of the following reasons:

1) I would like to in at least 5 hours a day for 2 months and my present school does not offer that many classes.

2) Would like to work with higher belts (brown and black)

3) Need 2 months away so that life does not interfere and all my energies could go into BJJ.

Is Brazil still the best place to go for the above objectives or is there a place in USA where the above volume of training can be had with high level competitors? I was told that for a 10 day getaway USA is cheaper than Brazil as there is no air ticket. But for longer stays (2 - 3 months Brazil) would be the same cost as USA because cheap no frills accommodation can be rented in Rio and if you cook for yourself and eat out once in a while it would turn out to be the same cost as going within USA for that long.

Can anyone please shed some light? Thanks.
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COme to New York
 
maybe more like a pilgrimage thing. like some judokas going to kodokan.
 
You can train like that here in California. I did 3 weeks in Brazil and it was a blast. Connection Rio is likely your best option.

You should go to brazil to do both train and absorb the atmosphere. Culture, beaches, instructors
 
SAMURAI SPIRIT said:
Where in NY? It is only 5 hours drive from me.
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I train at Marcelo Garcia Academy. You can easily train 5 hours a day if you want there's classes from 7am through 9pm every day, check the schedule on the website, but an average day has 7-8am, 11:30-12:30, 12;30-1:30, 5-6, 6-7, and 7-830, then tue-thurs there is also a 9-10. There are lots of good upper belts to train with as well. We're on 26th Street between 7th and 8th Avenue
 
What belt are you? TrumpetDan was looking for a ringer a while back.
 
You could basically get that in California. But Brazil would be a cool experience.
 
Very sorry about that!!! And who is better Vitor Shaolin or Vitor Belfort????
 
I've thought of doing this type of training schedule also, and I have a few questions for anyone that has done it or is thinking of it.
With 5 hours of training each day...
1)How often do you shower on this type of training schedule? (i.e. Are you showering 5 times a day?)
2)How many gis do you have and what is your gi-washing schedule like? (i.e. Are you washing gis every night/ do you have like 10 gis?)
3)How much or your training is drilling, and how much is rolling?

Thanks to anyone who can give some feedback.
 
DiscipleOfPog said:
I've thought of doing this type of training schedule also, and I have a few questions for anyone that has done it or is thinking of it.
With 5 hours of training each day...
1)How often do you shower on this type of training schedule? (i.e. Are you showering 5 times a day?)
2)How many gis do you have and what is your gi-washing schedule like? (i.e. Are you washing gis every night/ do you have like 10 gis?)
3)How much or your training is drilling, and how much is rolling?

Thanks to anyone who can give some feedback.
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on wednesday this week i did 4.5hrs. and the split was. 2 hrs in morning. with 1 hr of warmup/technique/and position specific drilling. with 1 hr of live takedowns, and 6 minute rolls with each person...

hung my gi up and let it air dry in the nice California Sun. came back at 6:30 and did Pan Am conditioning until 8. Crossfit type workout with kettlebells and burpees and airsquats then 1 hour of live take downs and rolling. that was nearly 5 hrs. wore my 1 gi. Did not smell at all, sprayed the gi with alcohol and water before i hung it to dry.

If my gi is able to air dry after practice i will wear it twice before wash, if its stuck in my bag, i wash after the one use.
 
combatcvic said:
If my gi is able to air dry after practice i will wear it twice before wash, if its stuck in my bag, i wash after the one use.
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Don't do this.

DiscipleOfPog said:
I've thought of doing this type of training schedule also, and I have a few questions for anyone that has done it or is thinking of it.
With 5 hours of training each day...
1)How often do you shower on this type of training schedule? (i.e. Are you showering 5 times a day?)
2)How many gis do you have and what is your gi-washing schedule like? (i.e. Are you washing gis every night/ do you have like 10 gis?)
3)How much or your training is drilling, and how much is rolling?

Thanks to anyone who can give some feedback.
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Sometimes I do 5ish hours a day so I'll answer these as best I can

1) Shower 3 times a day(once when I wake up and once after each training block)
2) Right now I only have 3 gi's which is a pain in the ass, but provided you have access to a washing machine nearby it's not a huge problem
3) You absolutely can't roll 5 hours a day. I usually do a 2 hour drilling session and then do the noon and night class which are 2 hours each with like 40ish minutes technique and an hour to an hour and a half of rolling. I think 3 hours is the very most you can roll day in day out.
 
Training 2 times a day (6 am and 7pm) kills me when I do it but the 9 hour work day in between is a factor.

I have done 3 a days one time (6, 10:30, then 7 pm) and I doubt I do it again. Its just to much wear and tear on your body for one day. I train 2 a days twice a week and get a total of 7-8 sessions a week.

I don't think without recovery enhancing aids, you cannot truly train 5 hours a day 6 days a week. Just to hard on your body. Either that or we train to hard or I am just a pansy.
 
SAMURAI SPIRIT said:
Where in California? I like the Monterey area. Is there a school there that would be good for this?
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I think you would be better off going further south, like San Diego area.
 
Come to fortaleza brazil,

here you can train 3 times a day with a bunch of black belts, plus private lesson with wolrld champion black belt every morning for about 240 dollars a month. so depending on how long you and how often you want to train, it can end up being cheaper comming to brazil than somehwere in the US, even if you live in the US.

Now if you really want to save up and you really want to get a grasp of the ROOTS OF OLD SCHOOL BJJ, go to Manaus, Amazon. There you can train for even cheaper than what i said and the jiu jitsu is more hardcore than rio. it wont be as pretty as rio though, and it will be poorer and much warmer and humid. Names like jacare and ribeiros are from manaus.
 
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