Is it just me? Or is it impossible to disrespect this sport?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by jimmy dakine, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. jimmy dakine

    jimmy dakine Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    255
    Mixed martial arts is perhaps the most noble sport in our sports crazy society. MMA is about honor.

    But there seems to be some sort of double standard going on here. Ask Conor if he is respectful of MMA and he will surely say yes, yet his actions are very disrespectful to his opponents, and to the sport itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, self promotion, i know all about it. But is there any point where self promotion ends and disrespect begins, or is anything allowed?

    Does disrespect even exist? And what would Conor have to do to cross over the line. I thought it made a circus of MMA when he jumped the fence but no one said a word.
    I don't think everyone needs to follow the code of the samurai, but does anyone think you can be honorable and a clown at the same time?

    I feel some boundaries need to be set or is MMA resembling pro wrestling ok with everyone?

    Opinions please.
     
  2. Dayuum

    Dayuum Orange Belt

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    2
    But MMA is one big commercial circus. Have you forgotten pride?
     
  3. Street Level

    Street Level Black Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Messages:
    5,401
    Likes Received:
    506
    Location:
    On the mend but skipping physical therapy
    I think people take the sport too seriously. I would rank it between frisbee golf and darts on the "nobility scale".
    Its actually a sport for poor people-you don't even need a ball and you can literally get picked out of the crowd if a guy didn't show back in the day and instantly be a "pro".
     
  4. Degen Gambler

    Degen Gambler Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    12,145
    Likes Received:
    10,885
    The shit talker will inevitably have to make the walk to the cage. There, he will either be exposed or prove himself. As long as someone is willing to make that walk to the cage who am I to say they are disrespecting the sport?
     
  5. Gatts

    Gatts Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,395
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Dublin (Conor Country)
    Different strokes for different folks.
    I'm glad there's variety.
     
  6. brian12

    brian12 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    Messages:
    4,044
    Likes Received:
    6
    If you disrespect the sport they send Fedor out to beat your ass. So no, its not possible to disrespect the sport.
     
  7. yookfarb

    yookfarb Red Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2013
    Messages:
    7,746
    Likes Received:
    4,253
    Location:
    DMV
    Get over yourself TS

    This is prize fighting, it would be a circus if they showed up to the octagon wearing their pajamas and colored belts.
     
  8. Exarch01

    Exarch01 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    885
    Likes Received:
    1,228
    It's over simplistic to respect anyone who steps into the cage to fight. I don't respect fighters who cheat or fight dirty, and in general, I don't respect people who do or say ignorant shit. Respect and honor is built into most (all?) martial arts, but a lot of fighters lose sight of that when they compete, which detracts from the sport.
     
  9. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    27,715
    Likes Received:
    8,246
    mma is about competition, not honor.

    its also about making money.
     
  10. stoops36

    stoops36 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    2,883
    Likes Received:
    252
    Location:
    Looking for Jesse
    I agree TS. Doesn't really seem like there is a line that can be crossed. As long as ur performing well u can pretty much act however you want. Flicking off in the cage, running outside of it to confront someone, smacking someones hand at the weigh ins...

    Those r all Conor things but its not limited to just him. The fact that the UFC used the Jones Cormier brawl as a promo for the fight didn't seem very professional to me. I thought it was awesome and it hyped me up for the fight, but I cant see the MLB showing a benches clearing brawl then showing the MLB logo right after it in order to hype up a playoff game or something
     
  11. ib313

    ib313 Imagine a Dystopian UFC

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,182
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    One only need to look at the great MMA artists who've gone beyond the sport to become leaders of society.
     
  12. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    27,715
    Likes Received:
    8,246
    you don't think the networks have promoted playoff games off of fights and rough play and cheap shots? hyped hate and rivalries? really?
     
  13. YES Cartwheel

    YES Cartwheel Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2013
    Messages:
    1,448
    Likes Received:
    605
    Location:
    In the space between Harold Howard's teeth.
    This just in, PC thread fails.
     
  14. screaminleeman

    screaminleeman Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2007
    Messages:
    8,621
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Location:
    Westminster, MD
    Well, since the Baltimore Sun newspaper does not report on MMA at all. . . . .

    I would say that yes indeed, not only is it possible to disrespect MMA as a sport, the prohibitive extreme vast majority of the Sport media world currently still does!
     
  15. jeremyemilio

    jeremyemilio Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    12,153
    Likes Received:
    4,545
    It's prize fighting, baby.

    These guys punch one another in the face for a living.

    Try not to forget that.
     
  16. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    15,362
    Likes Received:
    2,199
  17. stoops36

    stoops36 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    2,883
    Likes Received:
    252
    Location:
    Looking for Jesse
    hyped hate and rivals is completely different than brawls at a press conference though.

    And I think that networks have before but not the company directly. The Jones Cormier fight was a PPV so the ufc is firectly responsible for those promos. When networks like Fox or CBS put out a promo I assume that its the network that's behind the promo, not the entities like the NFL and the MLB.

    I could be mistaken on that though so correct me if im way out of line on my thinking there
     
  18. biscuitsbrah

    biscuitsbrah Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    7,175
    Likes Received:
    3,123
    exactly. Nothing worse than some dude complaining about the martial arts samurai code.
    Go watch Karate tournaments
     
  19. PlayTheGame

    PlayTheGame Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2014
    Messages:
    2,398
    Likes Received:
    3,809
    Nah, this kind of behaviour is exactly what ordinary people expect of tattooed guys, beating each other up in the cage.

    I mean, my mom or my neighbours or my colleagues wouldn't be surprised at all, if I showed them a picture of Conor and told that he likes to insult, troll and flip off his opponents.

    A lot of these guys don't act like a noble martial artists because they aren't noble martial artists - they are kids with hard upbringing and little education, pummelling each other for money.
     
  20. MrElbows

    MrElbows Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Messages:
    741
    Likes Received:
    4
    It's OK for McGregor to act the fool but if Jones would've did that, man it would've been a shit storm.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.