Is it even possible for a CLEAN Jones to (re)attain GOAT status after his suspension?

[PrideJitZoo]

Assuming comes back and cleans the division and maybe have success at HW as well.

Or will there always be a glass ceiling that prevents him from achieving such status with his PED usage in the past?

 

[Degen Gambler]

Who gets to decide who the GOAT is?

 

[Money509]

What a dumbass thread.You think jones is just going to forget all the skills he learned.

He will probably regress a little bit he will still beat anyone in the division

 

[Phronimos]

Sure. It's possible.

 

[Deleted member 501827]

What a dumbass thread.You think jones is just going to forget all the skills he learned.

He will probably regress a little bit he will still beat anyone in the division

Are you trolling? Considering Jones success is mainly attributed to his physicality, and technical skills are only about half of the equation and his are nothing to really write home about anyway Id say its perfectly rational to assume he could suffer a severe drop off in performance coming off the roids. He relies on having better cardio and endurance, size, strength and resistance to pain than everyone else. He relies on being able to just absorb shots in the clinch and being able to just outmuscle, outgrind and bully everyone. And roids help massively with that.

 

[electricsheep81]

He'll always have that dark cloud hanging over him and fuel for the haters, for the rest of his career and post career IMO.

look at what happened with Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire in the mlb.

He can come back and clean house, but speculation of using banned substances will always be there during his climb back up.

 

[Sgt Smith]

I have a feeling we may lose a lot a GOATs from the farm in the near future.

 

[ASTERIO]

What a dumbass thread.You think jones is just going to forget all the skills he learned.

He will probably regress a little bit he will still beat anyone in the division

Yeah, like Vitor did huh? wait , my bad, Belfort did forget his skills right mate?

 

[Ether13]

Glass ceiling? So he WAS taking estrogen blockers because he's a broad?

 

[Death By Samson]

As far as I am concerned once you pop your name is taken out of the GOAT conversation.

And I am certainly no Jones fan but I did consider him the GOAT.

 

[Peteyandjia]

As scary as it is... yes.

It's also possible for him to fuck up even more royally before then, so we may never find out.

Honestly I hope he gets his shit together, for everyone else's sake as well as his own.

 

[Team Sleep]

Assuming comes back and cleans the division and maybe have success at HW as well.

Or will there always be a glass ceiling that prevents him from achieving such status with his PED usage in the past?

He's dead to me.

 

[thobra]

He is a guy with a lot of skills, so it is possible to get back on top after a two year break. Look at Dom.

Can he compete without Peds? Of course not, And Who cares. There is a microscopic chance of being caught. Why do you think they tested Lesnar eight times In One month? They still only found something in the fifth test. Jones/Lesnar was just unlucky.

With good maskers And diuretics, the testers need to hit the exact right time. They come an hour too late, And it is all pissed out.

 

[Money509]

Are you trolling? Considering Jones success is mainly attributed to his physicality, and technical skills are only about half of the equation and his are nothing to really write home about anyway Id say its perfectly rational to assume he could suffer a severe drop off in performance coming off the roids. He relies on having better cardio and endurance, size, strength and resistance to pain than everyone else. He relies on being able to just absorb shots in the clinch and being able to just outmuscle, outgrind and bully everyone. And roids help massively with that.

I can assure you a 6'4 guy whos already bigger than everyone in the division is still going to be pretty strong without testosterone. Your acting is if hes clean then all of sudden he turns into some weakling lol

 

[Verace]

If the story that he barely trained for gustafson is true, id say its possible.

i dont think he was taking steroids and not training. that makes no sense. and we still had a solid jones fight.

 

[Money509]

Yeah, like Vitor did huh? wait , my bad, Belfort did forget his skills right mate?

vitor is 38 lol, he actually needs TRT to be competitive , its not like vitor is 28 like jones.

 

[phillysmoker]

if he does what cruz did after his long lay off. very doubtful though. a jc national champ should never outwrestle an olympian without science fellas.

 

[The guest]

Cheaters can't be GOAT. And it's a self inflicted wound.

And very many believe as I do. There is a stain on the career of caught cheaters. It's just fair play though. So again...

Cheaters can't be GOAT.