Is ISIS Wrong for Hating America?

[luckyshot]

The is not a question about ISLAM as an ideology or about whether the caliphate is justified as a political or military entity.

Just a simple question. A yes/ no question.

The United States began an conflict in 2002 that has ultimately lead the the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives.



Is ISIS justified for hating the United States, yes or no?

Mods, maybe we could add a poll?

 

[Seano]

I don't give a shit if they hate us or not. Their actions are intolerable and they must be eliminated. They want war and they are getting it and getting their asses handed to them.

 

[luckyshot]

I don't give a shit if they hate us or not. Their actions are intolerable and they must be eliminated. They want war and they are getting it and getting their asses handed to them.

But will you concede that they have a very legitimate reason to hate us?

 

[Seano]

But will you concede that they have a very legitimate reason to hate us?

No. Fuck them.

 

[bobgeese]

The is not a question about ISLAM as an ideology or about whether the caliphate is justified as a political or military entity.

Just a simple question. A yes/ no question.

The United States began an conflict in 2002 that has ultimately lead the the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives.



Is ISIS justified for hating the United States, yes or no?

Mods, maybe we could add a poll?

Do they have a good reason for killing Shia Muslims? They kill far more Muslims than Americans.

 

[Space]

The is not a question about ISLAM as an ideology or about whether the caliphate is justified as a political or military entity.

Just a simple question. A yes/ no question.

The United States began an conflict in 2002 that has ultimately lead the the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives.



Is ISIS justified for hating the United States, yes or no?

Mods, maybe we could add a poll?

 

[AviatorShades]

Someone who isn't dumb could start a new thread rephrased as "Would Iraqis be justified in hating America?"

ISIS are people who torture little boys until they publicly execute their own mothers and gang-rape you for having an illegal eye color. Their mission statement is ethnic purging towards the establishment of a caliphate and has almost nothing to do with hating the US. It's like asking if Ed Gein is wrong for hating broccoli.

 

[Boost6]

Liberals

100% committed to being islamist cum stain sucking chumps going FULL retard.

 

[ripskater]

ISIS should not hate us.

But they are all about hate. It's what they do.

 

[Jon Stark]

Yes, they are wrong for hating Western culture.

 

[luckyshot]

No. Fuck them.

Ok. That's one vote for the "Destroying a nation, toppling its government and leading to a million deaths" NBD camp.

 

[Rational Poster]

Someone who isn't dumb could start a new thread rephrased as "Would Iraqis be justified in hating America?"

ISIS are people who torture little boys until they publicly execute their own mothers and gang-rape you for having an illegal eye color. Their mission statement is ethnic purging towards the establishment of a caliphate and has almost nothing to do with hating the US. It's like asking if Ed Gein is allowed to hate broccoli.

ISIS leadership, and a lot of their militants, are mainly former Iraqi military and/or former Baath party members bolstered by foreign mercenaries.

 

[AviatorShades]

ISIS leadership, and a lot of their militants, are mainly former Iraqi military and/or former Baath party members.

And?

The Ba'ath party was relatively secular but enormously powerful and its members are present in every current Iraqi faction. Maybe you think Ba'athists were radical anti-west Sunnis or something?

 

[dontsnitch]

It's like asking if Ed Gein is wrong for hating broccoli.

Nicely done.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

No. Fuck them.

How about Iraqis in general? We tortured Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi until he gave us false intel about weapons of mass destruction. Then we took that false intel and toppled their nation while killing thousands of their country men and spawning ISIS who killed 10s of thousands more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/11/AR2009051103412.html

 

[luckyshot]

Lol. Conservative disingenuousness truly knows no limits.

I ask a simple question, and instead of answering it, look at how many replies are trying to deflect and ask a different question.

Lol at the idea that if another country attacked America in an unprovoked, unjustified war, toppled our government, and left several million Americans dead, we wouldn't hate them.

 

[Philo-Publius]

The is not a question about ISLAM as an ideology or about whether the caliphate is justified as a political or military entity.

Just a simple question. A yes/ no question.

The United States began an conflict in 2002 that has ultimately lead the the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives.



Is ISIS justified for hating the United States, yes or no?

Mods, maybe we could add a poll?

Why has the conflict in Iraq lead to the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives? Who killed all of those Iraqis?

 

[CargoKing]

ISIS should not hate us.

But they are all about hate. It's what they do.

It's also what you do. Unless you wanna suggest the advocacy of nuking children comes from a place of love...

ISIS sees itself at war with us, its beyond hatred. A better question is "are non-violent muslims from Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria right to hate us?" The answer there is absofuckinglutely.

 

[jimbob27]

Well the US and UK's plan of bombing countries until they like us isn't going very well. Maybe we need more bombs?

 

[Rational Poster]

And?

The Ba'ath party was relatively secular but enormously powerful and its members are present in every current Iraqi faction. Maybe you think Ba'athists were radical anti-west Sunnis or something?

If you can't see the cause and effect of us shattering the Iraqi state and disbanding of their military and how it directly led to the formation of ISIS I can only conclude you're being willfully delusional, as usual.