Is head movement ramdon?

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  1. bjj wrestler

    bjj wrestler White Belt

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    My question is simple, is head movement randomly moving your heads or timing the punch really well and slipping/ducking it? Or maybe is it a combo of both? Anyway eitherway, some advice on how to use head movement in mma would be really appreciated.
     
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  4. ArchAngelos

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    Sort of both.

    It's random in that you have to keep your head moving and stepping slightly to off angles so it is not a stationary target... keep your opponent moving and adjusting their aim.

    It's complete precision and timing in that every punch has a specific head movements against them to create openings and avoid the next probable punch to follow. For example, If you slip to the inside of a jab, then you are probably going to eat a cross as it is the common punch to be thrown and you just moved your head closer to it. While, if you slip to the outside of the jab, you are protected from the cross by your opponents jab arm and you have opened up their lead side ribs to a body hook and head to an overhand right or an off angle uppercut.

    Boxing is the sweet science. There is a system to it. You have to learn it.

    Good luck.
     
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    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    Agreed.. Now lets see how many guys who feel the urge to post the very same answer just so show that: "i also know some shit!"

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    -slip and counter
    -slip and clinch
    -slip and takedown
     
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    Head movement should always follow the natural flow of your body.
    Left hook...move your head from right to left afterward.
    Right hook...move your head from left to right afterward.

    p.s. Remember its all in the knees also. When using head movement don't just move your head. Instead, bend your knees low and keep your hands glued to your head for protection.
    Your upper body, head and hands should move in unison as you bob n weave.
     
  9. jlagman

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    "Random" isn't the word I would use; head movement shouldn't be too predictable.

    What not to do:

     
  10. ssullivan80

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    Simple answer: You ask "is head movement random", it is as random as the punches flying at your head require it to be.......

    Head movement in terms of slipping/ducking is defensive head movement to evade a strike and is completely random as it is dictated by what your slipping or ducking to evade. Don't confuse "head movement" as a generality that just means slip or duck, although slipping and ducking require you to move your head out of the way, they are purely reactionary or reflexive..... (i.E: opponent swings hook high, you duck under, it is a reaction that is randomly dictated by your opponents reaction). Head movement holistically (all aspects combined) has more to do with overall body movement and posturing. Good head movement comes from staying relaxed, particularly in the shoulders, neck and core. If your upper body remains relaxed and your moving fluidly on the balls of your feet, not hopping around, but instead a relaxed back n forth weight transfer on the balls of your feet, using proper footwork to move front n back, side to side. Then by keeping your upper body relaxed and not tensing up, the headmovement becomes a bi-product of relaxed and poised overall body movement (starts at the feet). If your tense your movement becomes robotic and reactionary movements are much more difficult to time effectively or preemptively (slipping, ducking, etc), not to mention you become predictable as any rehearsed or forced movement will eventually and inevitably create a pattern and once your opponent recognizes that pattern you are much more vulnerable to taking shots, the kinda shots that provide you with a great view of ceiling! The key to "head movement" is staying relaxed and creating good overall movement, being reactionary not robotic!

    in hurricanes or high wind storms big oak and pine trees are the first to get snapped and toppled over, but you will rarely see a willow tree get torn down, one resists and the other reacts accordingly by being "pliable" or relaxed, same concept applies to movement in the ring against opposing force! Good examples: BJ Penn or Anderson Silva, notice how relaxed they keep their movement in the ring. A good fighter expends allot of effort and it is evident in the way they win fights through athleticism and attrition. A great fighter expends just as much effort, but makes it look effortless because they dont rely solely on athleticism or attrition, they stay relaxed and adapt as the situation demands.
     
  11. bjj wrestler

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    Good advice, really helpful. What about like Franke Edgar though?he seems to be moving his head randomly all the time.
     
  12. lparnes

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    both, always keep moving your head, dont leave it still. also, if you see a punch coming then you move away from it.
     
  13. ambertch

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    I mean - you should do what's comfortable. Head movement serves two purposes: beyond making you harder to hit it's also for keeping your head in motion so you're more prepared to execute a defense when needed.

    You should also move differently in different situations - what's the point of moving the head side to side against a short opponent? Better countering opportunities in moving it fowards and backwards a bit to confuse the distancing. Whereas moving side to side more against taller opponents for slipping.
     

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