Is grappling useless against a guy who can stand up from every takedown?

[Jonas g33k]

...

throw harder.

But what if he's schaubing me?

 

[rmongler]

Askren lacks the physical ability to hit hard.

I'm not talking about striking.

 

[Thycidides]

Its called Kami Basami, or a rolling heel hook like Ryan Hall does.

 

[SummerStriker]

How many black beasts are there going around? Of course if you meet such a specimen it would be.s hell to keep him down, Bjj ain't no black magic.

Not arguing with you. Just talking.

If a guy can scramble away from BJJ'ers and Wrestlers and stand up because of his countless hours spent on the mat with BJJ'ers and Wrestlers, isn't he using those arts?

Some people would rather call it, "abusing his access to those arts." Cause he's not really doing them in MMA in the way they are done in their own venues.

In real life, I've never seen an untrained fighter who could do anything to escape the ground besides flail mermaid legs or corkscrew to turtle. Most grapplers get great at handling that.

 

[jcandoitbig]

I have met so many purples who would get destroyed by athletic wrestlers, and could easily just pick them up and slam them unconscious in a "street fight situation".

guess you should train somewhere else then?

 

[Legendary]

guess you should train somewhere else then?

With that attitude, I bet you get wrecked by blues all day.

 

[jcandoitbig]

With that attitude, I bet you get wrecked by blues all day.

because I don't agree with your line of thinking? logical.

if you actually hold that belief about the average purple belt vs a wrestler, then you should switch gyms because clearly the level isn't very high