Is God really Satan/Adversary?

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The concept of God and Satan comes from the Sumerian brothers Enki and Enlil.

As the Sumerians told it, Enlil despised his own original creation, the human race, who were created as slaves to mine gold in Africa. Zacharia Sitchen has proposed that this is why the first homo-sapien skeletons were found in African goldmines, and is why gold is revered across all cultures that had no contact with each other.

Enki, Enlil's brother, feeling sorry for man, sought to inform man of his true purpose (a slave race). This is where the allegorical story of the garden of eden (Sumerian = E.DIN) came from. Enki was depicted as a serpent by the Babylonians (serpent = knowledge in many cultures), and when he tried to inform man (Sumerian = A.DAMU) of his predicament, Enlil got pissed off and "original sin" was born. There was obviously something so secret, that Enlil was willing to threaten eternal punishment to mankind should they ever find out.

Enlil was so enraged, that he attempted to destroy all mankind with a catastrophic act (the Great Flood). In the Sumerian story, it was Enki who then warned Ziusudra (Biblical Noah) of Enlil's plans, and saved mankind from his brother's malevolance.

Enlil's vindictiveness, commanding multiple of acts of murder, incest, genocide, etc., of anyone who didn't follow him without question, can be later found throughout the Old Testament - which amounts to a smear campaign of God calling Satan "evil", but perpetrating the most evil acts himself.

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When religion was better understood to be utilized as a political tool, the monotheistic Western religions were born, and myths and allegories were amalgamated into one all-knowing "God".

So in fact, the "God" (Enlil) of the bible is really mankind's antithesis, while "Satan" (Enki) was mankind's compassionate caretaker. One only needs to look at the Old Testament for the brutality and blind, unquestioning obedience that "God" commanded of his people, more akin to a slavemaster exerting total and complete control over his little pets.

"Pigs, geese and cattle. First find out they are owned. Then find out the whyness of it." Charles Fort

I am not a satanist, nor into religion - I am more inclined to believe that these stories are simply astrological allegory mixed in with half-truths and real events, but I do find it odd that so much of Western religion seems to have been duped into believing that God isn't anything other than a wolf in sheep's clothing.
 
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Yup, it all checks out.
 
Interesting read.

How did they calculate God's killcount down to the last digit when dealing in the millions?
 
How does this compare to Gnosticism?
 
Interesting read.

How did they calculate God's killcount down to the last digit when dealing in the millions?

Good question - I guess someone went through the entire Bible and counted every instance .... but I think the idea is what matters. For some reason, God is given a pass for directly commanding wanton violence.
 
I don't know much about Gnosticism, do you have any insight?
From what I remember, I'm a little out of it at the moment, but the idea is that there is a different god in the Old Testament compared to the New Testament. It's a different being. The Old Testament god is theorized to be a lesser god among many, who led those people specifically. The God of the New Testament is the big creator god we think of.
 
Yaldaboath (demiurge) is the entity you are refering to. The prime creator is completely benevolent.
 
I could be wildly misinformed though. It's been awhile, and all of this has been a lot of stress on me lately. It's kind of a terrifying topic.
 
From what I remember, I'm a little out of it at the moment, but the idea is that there is a different god in the Old Testament compared to the New Testament. It's a different being. The Old Testament god is theorized to be a lesser god among many, who led those people specifically. The God of the New Testament is the big creator god we think of.

Interesting. Their referral to the OT seems to be more in line with what the Sumerians believed.
 
I could be wildly misinformed though. It's been awhile, and all of this has been a lot of stress on me lately. It's kind of a terrifying topic.

There really is no need to dive into the dark side. The only reason I did was for the knowledge, now I don't dwell in that space. There is not much benefit there other than to know what has happened to the earth.
 
There really is no need to dive into the dark side. The only reason I did was for the knowledge, now I don't dwell in that space. There is not much benefit there other than to know what has happened to the earth.
I'm just trying to find the bright side.
 
I'm just trying to find the bright side.

I hear you man. I have been there. I am not going to tell you what path is best for you. But I assure you that there is a bright side, and I know for a fact you are capable of finding it.

 
Interesting read.

How did they calculate God's killcount down to the last digit when dealing in the millions?
Some estimation of population for the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, and stuff.
 
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There's an old Russian (I think) story about how the Devil gave all sorts of tools, like fire, to humans to help them separate themselves from God. It was seen as an act of kindness because, yeah, God can be pretty vindictive.
 
Old Testament and New Testament god's are completely different so that makes sense.

Shame this has been dumped. Could have been a good discussion.
 
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