Is forcibly holding someone against a fence “dominating” them?

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  1. Garnet_StrongerThanYou Purple Belt

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    A show of hands here.

    If you got into a street fight and the other guy held you against the wall for 25 minutes, would you say you got your ass kicked?

    Sometimes when guys have angry girlfriends try to beat them up People hold them against the wall until they calmed down.

    Obviously the guy against the wall doesn’t like it and can’t stop it.

    What say you Sherdog?
     
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  2. Kryptt Dead Belt

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    As long as some strikes are involved it pretty much is.

    Can't get em off the cage or on top ya - yer likely gonna lose if they are thumpin a lil...

    Mind that I would prefer some illegal strikes changed due to this factor.
     
  3. mma sharingan Brown Belt

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    No it's a pussies way of fighting, same as lay n pray, it shouldnt even be aloud, it's literally going into a fight to not fight... biitch mindset and I laugh any time these treehuggers n crotch sniffers think they're remotely badass, I've seen 5 year olds fight with better killer instinct than em. If rawdogging was legal then maybe tings would be different.
     
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  4. mirko>anyone Red Belt

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    If you irrefutably pin someone against their will, it’s dominant.
     
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  5. Garnet_StrongerThanYou Purple Belt

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    Somebody held this guy against a fence and traumatized him.
     
  6. PizzaandBeer Banned Banned

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    Like when Usman held Mas against the fence for 5 rounds lol
     
  7. Reign009 Not sure if serious.

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    No, but it is "controlling".
     
  8. Eiffel-sixtyFight Green Belt

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    @Smokes does this in the work place. Ask him.
     
  9. Kryptt Dead Belt

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    Jus ask Danny Castillo...
     
  10. pick999 Gold Belt

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    In the hood you get jumped for holding on to someone.
     
  11. Goatbib Orange Belt

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    Yes it is dominant. We may not like it because it is boring to watch but if you are imposing your will on another fighter and they can't do anything about it then it is undoubtedly domination.
     
  12. mma sharingan Brown Belt

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    Not yet but itll happen one day
     
  13. richardjohnson Purple Belt

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    These guys put a lot of time and effort into training so people won't be able to hold them against the fence, considering that I'd say it is dominating someone.
     
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  14. 2004 account Longtime fan

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    Listen the counter argument is learning how to escape that position with a technique of your own.


    I'd say it's quite embarrassing for a fighter to get completely controlled like a frail and feeble Bambi against the cage without being able to mount any offense at all because you never learned how to get double underhooks or something for example. The onus should be placed on the defender to get out of it, this is mixed martial arts after all... If you ain't evolved enough then you lose.



    I hate Colby for example but I can't knock the dude for what he does... Nullifying his opponents attacks.


    Even at hw if I see that you're in the ufc for more than 3 fights and still havnt learned how to get out from under a mount like Brendan Schaub for example, then that shit is an embarrassment and should be semi shamed here at sherdog imo lol
     
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  15. Shaun K Yellow Belt

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    Its not entertaining but technically its control.
     
  16. Peli Black Belt

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    Idk why but that sounds so rape-y when I read it.
     
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  17. gono btw Rounds...

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    The concept of 'dominance' is diluted into several criteria in the 2011 UFC Scorin´System...
    Be it in Effective Grapplin´or Strikin´, or even in Fighting area control, Effective aggressiveness or Effective defense, the action & its defensive reaction imply a dual qualitative assessment...
     
  18. Smokes Black Belt

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    All part of the job

     
  19. SmoothPies Green Belt

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    It really depends on damage. Two examples to show the difference:

    Cain vs. JDS 2 & 3. Mostly Cain keeping JDS against the fence, teeing off on him at will, tons of damage
    Couture vs. Vera. Terrible fight, was just Randy holding Vera against the fence for 15 minutes.
     
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  20. DarthChen731 Gold Belt

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    If he smesh while he do dis den yes
     
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