Is CNN intentionally race baiting here? Trayvon Martin 2.0 here we go

[hillelslovak87]

For stupid people who can’t form an argument yes. The only relevant fact for that night is an area that has been having breakins had a neighborhood watch guy out saw someone walking between houses. The fact he’d been suspended for weed, not the worst. The fact he’s been caught with a bunch of women’s jewelry, that makes it seem at least a little more likely he was possibly looking to break in. The fact his parent didnt know he was suspended doesn’t look good for him having solid parents. The fact you jump to white black tells me you’re out of arguments very early on and have nothing to add to this or any conversation

What is more likely?

His parent's story, that he went to the store during the halftime of an NBA game to buy snacks for himself and a brother, and was on his way back?

or

He got Skittles and a tea before casing his next joint?

You guys, come on. Zimmerman ignored the cops, then baited a 17 year old into a physical confrontation, and shot him. Even if we granted he was in fact casing his next joint, it was not Zimmerman's place to take any action, as the police told him, and he was in no way or fashion in the right.

 

[BEER]

Having a hard time rectifying your first paragraph with your last. Thanks anyway for the reply.

It seems conflicting, but it's really not.

Zimmerman initiated the situation by stalking a kid. Zimmerman doesn't know the kid has a somewhat sketchy history, just that he "fits the description" of a young black male. Martin confronts him and ends up fighting him, kicking the shit out of a guy he knows no further than as the dude who is stalking him. Martin could have called the police, but I don't personally fault him. Zimmerman, who should have called the police from the beginning, based on his "suspicion", had every right to defend himself.

It's a messy case. Neither of these guys are without blame. Martin didn't deserve to die.

 

[44nutman]

For stupid people who can’t form an argument yes. The only relevant fact for that night is an area that has been having breakins had a neighborhood watch guy out saw someone walking between houses. The fact he’d been suspended for weed, not the worst. The fact he’s been caught with a bunch of women’s jewelry, that makes it seem at least a little more likely he was possibly looking to break in. The fact his parent didnt know he was suspended doesn’t look good for him having solid parents. The fact you jump to white black tells me you’re out of arguments very early on and have nothing to add to this or any conversation

The people who bring up these arguments about Trayvon never bring up ZimZams prior history.
My point is the pro ZimZam crowd always bring up shit about Trayvon but leave out ZimZams prior history all the while screaming CNN bias. The irony is laughable.

For the record, what ZimZam did was not murder, he was within his legal rights to use his gun but that does not change, including ZimZams legal troubles afterwards that ZimZam is an asshole.

 

[cincymma79]

What is more likely?

His parent's story, that he went to the store during the halftime of an NBA game to buy snacks for himself and a brother, and was on his way back?

or

He got Skittles and a tea before casing his next joint?

You guys, come on. Zimmerman ignored the cops, then baited a 17 year old into a physical confrontation, and shot him. Even if we granted he was in fact casing his next joint, it was not Zimmerman's place to take any action, as the police told him, and he was in no way or fashion in the right.

A neighborhood watch guy followed a kid walking between houses at night when they’ve been having break ins. Stupid? Yes. But he has as much right as Trayvon did to be out walking around. Everything after that you don’t know. So the kid isn’t violent but attacked him to show his nonviolence?

 

[cincymma79]

The people who bring up these arguments about Trayvon never bring up ZimZams prior history.
My point is the pro ZimZam crowd always bring up shit about Trayvon but leave out ZimZams prior history all the while screaming CNN bias. The irony is laughable.

For the record, what ZimZam did was not murder, he was within his legal rights to use his gun but that does not change, including ZimZams legal troubles afterwards that ZimZam is an asshole.

He is an asshole
I didn’t bring his history up, was correcting people who quoted he story but left the parts out hat didn’t fit their narrative. I gave the whole quote in context.

 

[hillelslovak87]

A neighborhood watch guy followed a kid walking between houses at night when they’ve been having break ins. Stupid? Yes. But he has as much right as Trayvon did to be out walking around. Everything after that you don’t know. So the kid isn’t violent but attacked him to show his nonviolence?

We know he followed the kid well after he called the police and they told him to WATCH instead of engaging. We know that he then went out of his way to engage the kid.

 

[hillelslovak87]

The answer is yes, he was, for being a little criminal.

Yeah, I guess the penalty for childhood mistakes should be death via a stalking pedophile with a gun, who is an actual criminal.

Totally makes sense, and you're totally not a cunt.

 

[cincymma79]

We know he followed the kid well after he called the police and they told him to WATCH instead of engaging. We know that he then went out of his way to engage the kid.

Woopiddyfuckingdoo
No really
Woopiddyfuckingdoo

It was an operator who word for word said we don’t need you to do that. We can play he goddamn tape for the 7174628)3&3838282th time

You’re either misinformed or a lying liar

You can’t be ordered not to walk and that goes double for an operator


Stop it

 

[hillelslovak87]

Woopiddyfuckingdoo
No really
Woopiddyfuckingdoo

It was an operator who word for word said we don’t need you to do that. We can play he goddamn tape for the 7174628)3&3838282th time

You’re either misinformed or a lying liar

You can’t be ordered not to walk and that goes double for an operator


Stop it

So why did he bother making the call if he knew what to do? Wasn't he a neighborhood WATCH member?

But by all means, keep obfuscating for an incestuous domestic abuser with a history of violence.

 

[cincymma79]

So why did he bother making the call if he knew what to do? Wasn't he a neighborhood WATCH member?

But by all means, keep obfuscating for an incestuous domestic abuser with a history of violence.

Keep deflecting that you’re lying and easily proven lies at that. Sad. Everyone know Zimmerman is a cunt. You’re just lying about that situation because you don’t like him. Understandable but still lying.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Keep deflecting that you’re lying and easily proven lies at that. Sad. Everyone know Zimmerman is a cunt. You’re just lying about that situation because you don’t like him. Understandable but still lying.

Did he follow the kid?
Did he call on an authority and ask what to do?
Did he neglect to do what he asked to do?

The answers are all yes. He was a Neighborhood WATCH member, and went out of his way, armed, to instigate the situation. He then shot a teenager who was walking home to catch the second half of an NBA game.

 

[cincymma79]

Did he follow the kid?
Did he call on an authority and ask what to do?
Did he neglect to do what he asked to do?

The answers are all yes. He was a Neighborhood WATCH member, and went out of his way, armed, to instigate the situation. He then shot a teenager who was walking home to catch the second half of an NBA game.

keep walking back

he reported it to a call desk person, the highest law in the land, who could relay that info to actual police
they have no authority
that's the same as me telling you not to post

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Totally makes sense, and you're totally not a cunt.

Someone disagreeing with you is not a character flaw. You won't grow up until you learn that.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Someone disagreeing with you is not a character flaw. You won't grow up until you learn that.

Or maybe adults don't like people who obfuscate for incestuous wife beaters who murder people....

 

[hillelslovak87]

keep walking back

he reported it to a call desk person, the highest law in the land, who could relay that info to actual police
they have no authority
that's the same as me telling you not to post

If he did not even know who to call, being a Neighborhood watch member, maybe he was not in position to stalk a teenager for suspected property larceny, or do anything about it. Instead, he called who he thought he should call, then went ahead with being a vigilante instead.

 

[cincymma79]

If he did not even know who to call, being a Neighborhood watch member, maybe he was not in position to stalk a teenager for suspected property larceny, or do anything about it. Instead, he called who he thought he should call, then went ahead with being a vigilante instead.