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Having his kid hit someone in the nuts at weigh ins, racial slurs, this lovely bit of his. Hes a pos.
Wow. POS indeed.
Having his kid hit someone in the nuts at weigh ins, racial slurs, this lovely bit of his. Hes a pos.
Irrespective of personality or lifestyle, I think it’s pretty clear that BJS is a talented boxer. I don’t think this can be really argued
against.
He’s completely handled some fairly decent fighters such as Andy Lee, David Lemieux (already mentioned), Willie Monroe Jr, etc. And was competitive with a guy like Eubank Jr, who isn’t a pile of shit, by any stretch of the means.
Sure, he hasn’t fought the top top echelon guys yet, and if that’s your gripe, then good on you. But if we’re being real, he’s clearly a talented fighter, and it’s a bit ridiculous to say otherwise.
I mean, if we’re talking levels or echelons of talent, he’s got to be one pretty close to the top. Maybe a couple of rings down from the top, but right up there. Which is still better than 99.99% of the population of the planet.
So basically, I feel you’re being pretty unfair.
He barely scraped by Andy Lee and Eubank Jr.. He didn't look all that special against Monroe Jr. (a mediocrity), either.
Hopefully we get a better opponent than that but it is funny how so many people picked Kovalev and now the narrative has changed to Canelo picked him because he's washed upI hope he destroys BJS next to shut people up again.
Hopefully we get a better opponent than that but it is funny how so many people picked Kovalev and now the narrative has changed to Canelo picked him because he's washed up
He will get less credit for BJS than any recent win. In fact, I think the same idiot critics will dog on him for it.People are always excited when Canelo fights are announced. Just go back to the early Canelo-Kovalev threads. First it was "it's all just smoke and mirrors, he'll never take that fight!" (he did), then "he'll make Kovalev fight at an insane weight!" (he didn't).
And then of course, obviously, after he wins, his opponents were never any good or just washed up to begin with. Over and over again.
I hope he destroys BJS next to shut people up again.
Oh for fucks sake this is nonsense. If Kovalev is so bad off why were so many people saying Canelo couldnt handle him? Kovalevs jab and power were more than Canelo’s defense and head movement could handle? Canelo didnt have the power to hurt a LHW? The Vegas odds were relatively close, got down to +300 for Kovalev, thats the same as Jacobs? Was Danny shot too? So on and so forth.The Super Middle Weight win Fielding and Kovalev win doesn't jump him in my ranks any higher because Kovalev is shot with no chin and Rocky Fielding wasn't the top Champion.
But to the casual fans and kids and Mexicans it's a great achievement but to Boxing fans of the sport it's not that great.
Canelo has to pull a Manny Pac. and challenge and beat or lose win some against all of the top fighters in the top 3 or 5 and beat other champions then credit earned and due and given.
But just jumping weight classes and beating shot champions isn't getting that much credit but a good win.
Let's see what else he does and who he fights.
Hopefully we get a better opponent than that but it is funny how so many people picked Kovalev and now the narrative has changed to Canelo picked him because he's washed up
He barely scraped by Andy Lee and Eubank Jr.. He didn't look all that special against Monroe Jr. (a mediocrity), either.
About 40% of the forum picked Canelo. Ill start locking polls when the fights start so they dont get skewed to bs like always once the fight is over.that's not the case on here tbh. Most picked Canelo because kov is a shadow of his former self. check the thread out dude
About 40% of the forum picked Canelo. Ill start locking polls when the fights start so they dont get skewed to bs like always once the fight is over.
Now all of a sudden Kovalev was a bad opponent.
Oh for fucks sake this is nonsense. If Kovalev is so bad off why were so many people saying Canelo couldnt handle him? Kovalevs jab and power were more than Canelo’s defense and head movement could handle? Canelo didnt have the power to hurt a LHW? The Vegas odds were relatively close, got down to +300 for Kovalev, thats the same as Jacobs? Was Danny shot too? So on and so forth.
Ill tell you why. Because it was a very dangerous fight. One in which Canelo came through with flying colors and did literally everything that his critics said he couldnt.
And Im saying anyone trying to discredit Canelo’s resume and/or legacy as it stands is a total clown.I am just saying Canelo has to cement his legacy by completing his goal because now it's calling out other Champions by his trainer, so things wasn't just a one time weight jump, because team Canelo is already barking.
If Manny just moved to 147 and beat a shot old champion and hadn't faced everyone else nobodies giving him this much credit he's now being given why because it wouldn't be finished and not complete.
Do other fighters get extreme credit for beating past prime Champions like Mike Tyson and the unknown fighters who beat him, absolutely not.
Even Lennox Lewis isn't getting the full credit because Mike was past prime, but it's a win.
Did Oscar get absolutely full credit for beating an old Chavez, nope because Chavez was past prime and done.
Canelo didn't even get credit for beating past prime Mosley and Cotto didn't get full credit for beating Sergio.
Let's wait and see what happens first because team Canelo is calling everyone out now.
And Im saying anyone trying to discredit Canelo’s resume and/or legacy as it stands is a total clown.
He's only the second guy in boxing history to hold belts in 3 weight classes at once, I believe. It was a pretty significant win for his legacy, its ridiculous to argue otherwise.Every Boxing expert has said Kovalev was done and not the same and his power was fading and said that this is a good win but not a legitimate game changing win and that's their words and not mine, now everyone is wrong ? or just stating facts and will wait until Canelo fights the other top prime champions at 168 and 175 if he's staying.
He's only the second guy in boxing history to hold belts in 3 weight classes at once, I believe. It was a pretty significant win for his legacy, its ridiculous to argue otherwise.
What are you talking about? He did just fine against Lee, and clearly out boxed and maneuvered Eubank Jr for what appeared to be a clear cut decision.
Also, Lee and Eubank are not shitty, or even mediocre, fighters. Yeah it’s not fucking Canelo Alvarez, but beating either of those guys is a genuine accomplishment.
Also, I never insinuated any of those wins meant he’s going to be beating the “elite”. I clearly stated it was indicative of a relatively high level of talent, which it clearly is.
There’s this pretentious thing I see particularly in combat sports that fans do, such as in this case, where the use the absolute cream of the crop as an absurdly rigid measuring stick for all other competitors. Like, if you’re not KOing Canelo it means your basically shit or something. Or if you don’t absolutely smash every single opponent, or maybe struggle against a lower ranked opponent, it likewise means your crap.
People will probably be like, “well that’s not really what I’m saying, blah blah blah,” but that’s essentially the tenor, because it’s always framed in the context of, “how would they do against the ‘elite.’”
He’s completely handled some fairly decent fighters such as Andy Lee, David Lemieux (already mentioned), Willie Monroe Jr, etc.