well, perhaps you missed the part where i said the extreme cases of bullying. of course they are not right. and sources on bullying? turn on your news. look on facebook. its everywhere.
but someone calling you a name on facebook, i am sorry, but get over it. if it goes to 4chan or death threats, thats obviously a different matter. but it seems most of these are just kids being over dramatic. and people like you that want to kiss their ass all the time instead of telling them to suck it up contribute to the problem. its horrible that some of these kids kill themselves. i never said it wasnt. and those little incidents you speak of are the cases where kids need to get over it.
i get the sense you are the type that hates when scores are kept because everyone should be a "winner." teach them that not everyone wins and maybe they will go a thicker skin and compete instead of cashing out when times get tough
The news? Oh, because the news isn't mostly sensationalized bullshit that pushes whatever issues are "hot" right now? Bullying is becoming more public with high profile deaths, of course stories about it are becoming more common. That's common sense.
Using Facebook is just helping make my case. It wouldn't have been on Facebook 20 years ago. Only the kids at your school would have known.
Who do you know that is freaking out over someone calling them a name on Facebook? What stories are you hearing about that are over something small like that? Because the stories I hear are about incredibly public and repeated taunting and harassment.
How can you say it is just kids being over dramatic? You're not those kids. You are in no position to say that. I.E. you're just talking out of your ass.
I don't want to kiss kid's asses all the time. Nothing in my post said that. This is about whether or not bullying is worse now. It is. Of course I think they should handle it better, I wish they could. But now they can't just go and fight the bully, because the bully is anonymous and persistent, and potentially physical as well. You realize it's not just Facebook namecalling right? Bullying these days hasn't just completely quit being physical. Kids are getting beaten up and shoved around just like they were back then. PLUS, it gets spread on social media.
That's my entire point, bullying is worse now because the worst things that happened to kids back then still happen now but are amplified. Can you not understand that? You have no basis to say it's just kids being over dramatic, because you're blaming the victim and that's just fucked up.
Do you tell a woman that gets raped she shouldn't have worn a short dress? Who the fuck blames victims?
And no, I love a good competition. Do you forget we're on an MMA forum? And they aren't teaching them that everyone wins. They don't all get a 1st place trophy, some kids get participation trophies. That isn't winning shit. It's not like they don't see that EVERYONE got one. They know it doesn't make them special. They know they lost. It's just a nice gesture.
Kids these days are growing up in terrible financial times, a rapidly global world with all their actions much more public, fear of war and nuclear war, the idea that you HAVE to go to college to not be a failure since everyone has a bachelor's these days, very public and tense, highly polarized political and social reform climates, and you want to say they don't have to deal with a lot of shit? Kids growing up now deserve a bit of a safety net, because the world fucking sucks right now and it's only looking to get worse. They will be tough because they will have to be tough, no reason to heap on the shittiness just to fulfill some fucked up notion of "in my day" toughness that is almost certainly pure bullshit to begin with.
You just sound like a big fucking whiner man. Im not even out of touch, im 23 years old and I have family in high school right now.
Sure there are extreme cases where videos go viral but that shit is not as common as you are trying to make it.
I dont know how you are going to try and spin that getting hateful tweets from random strangers is harder than getting beat down on a daily basis or having the whole school laugh at you and hate you.
And if you are getting bullied on social networks then that means you are most likely getting bullied at school too since those same people on your fb are the ones from your school. Im sorry I just dont buy that the internet makes bullying worse. I think its a cheap scapegoat.
And no one said kids deserved to be bullied or its okay for them to be bullied. What I am specifically saying is I don't think its any worse today then it was before. What is worse is parenting. But what can you expect when divorce rates are high and teen pregnancies are common. There is no real family structure anymore.
I didn't try to spin anything of the sort. I never said that beatdowns don't occur now. Do you think bullies suddenly quit getting physical? Like I've said multiple times now, the worst things that happened back then happen now but on a bigger scale.
And you just added to my argument. Yes, if you're getting bullied on Facebook then you're likely getting bullied at school too. See how that helps my argument? If not, I'll explain it to you. Remember what I said above about shit from the past being on a bigger scale now? Ah yes, exactly. Like you said, kids are still being bullied at school. Then, instead of getting a break at home, they are also being bullied online. And it isn't just on Facebook, and it isn't always just bullies from your school. That same bullying from the past happens and it happens at school and online. You don't catch a break from it.
And yes, divorce rates are higher now. And a good thing too, because people that are unhappy in a marriage shouldn't feel obligated to stay in it because of societal and family pressures. I see nothing wrong with that.