Does anyone here use a more square on style stance (or even fully square) like Tyson, Julio Chavez, Floyd Patterson and the like when boxing?
This question is for anyone who spars hands only, even if you are an MMA or MT fighter.
Its a very rare thing to see boxers to with a square stance but those who do seem to have great success exploiting it as it allows you to do the side bend type of slip , squat and side to side power hooks to the body.
But it also seems like those people have incredible natural reflexes and confidence to rely on these skills , possibly something beyond what someone without that ability can learn.
Duran would go pretty square with his infighting too and his ability to avoid being hit when right in front of opponent, often touching skin was unbelievable.
The most famous coach of this style; Cus D'amato reportedly thought of his style (which came to be known as peekaboo) as something which absolutely prioritised defense. And going by the second hand account through his student Joey Hadley, it is apparently a fool proof method to make an ungifted sub par student into a competent boxer.
I am doubtful if that is true, as the orthodox popular style used in amateur boxing especially and by those very analytical Soviets. Has always been the side on style.
But I'd be happy if it was as I'd like to learn.
Two things which seem impossible to me right now are closing distance from out of range to mid range while square on. There are plenty of videos of Tyson doing the drill for this with some kind of modified Dempsey roll/falling step thing with simultaneous V Bob and weave.
I have been trying to do it for a year and am not even close.
The other impossibly hard thing is having the balls to go square on at long range to mid distance and rely entirely on the side bend slips and squat type ducking and most of all the figure 8 type rolling of head with bent over torso - all as the methods of evading being hit.
Gym is on lockdown like everyone else. But to paint a picture, the "culture" of the gym is that the only sparring is 100% sparring. No head protectors either. If you ask someone to technical spar softly or drill you will be thrown out of the ring for people who want to 100% spar.
This question is for anyone who spars hands only, even if you are an MMA or MT fighter.
Its a very rare thing to see boxers to with a square stance but those who do seem to have great success exploiting it as it allows you to do the side bend type of slip , squat and side to side power hooks to the body.
But it also seems like those people have incredible natural reflexes and confidence to rely on these skills , possibly something beyond what someone without that ability can learn.
Duran would go pretty square with his infighting too and his ability to avoid being hit when right in front of opponent, often touching skin was unbelievable.
The most famous coach of this style; Cus D'amato reportedly thought of his style (which came to be known as peekaboo) as something which absolutely prioritised defense. And going by the second hand account through his student Joey Hadley, it is apparently a fool proof method to make an ungifted sub par student into a competent boxer.
I am doubtful if that is true, as the orthodox popular style used in amateur boxing especially and by those very analytical Soviets. Has always been the side on style.
But I'd be happy if it was as I'd like to learn.
Two things which seem impossible to me right now are closing distance from out of range to mid range while square on. There are plenty of videos of Tyson doing the drill for this with some kind of modified Dempsey roll/falling step thing with simultaneous V Bob and weave.
I have been trying to do it for a year and am not even close.
The other impossibly hard thing is having the balls to go square on at long range to mid distance and rely entirely on the side bend slips and squat type ducking and most of all the figure 8 type rolling of head with bent over torso - all as the methods of evading being hit.
Gym is on lockdown like everyone else. But to paint a picture, the "culture" of the gym is that the only sparring is 100% sparring. No head protectors either. If you ask someone to technical spar softly or drill you will be thrown out of the ring for people who want to 100% spar.
