Is Antonio Tarver a HOFmer?

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I'm gonna say no.

He beat a shot Roy (after losing to him the first time). I thought their 3rd fight was kinda embarrassing tbh with Tarver getting hurt multiple times by Roy's corpse.

I think it was Emannuel Steward who commented that he saw Tarver as mentally weak.

and then the Hopkins thing happened where he got kinda humiliated.

Dawson whooped him twice

some good wins in there though. Obviously beat Roy. Beat Montell Griffin. Beat Glen Johnson after losing to him. Beat Eric Harding after losing to him. Beat Reggie Johnson. Stopped Danny Green, Jonathan Banks and beat Clinton Woods

watcha think
 
For some reason I thought he already was. I would say no, very one dimensional (IMO), and weak resume, outside of RJJ.

I bet he will get in tho, if only for his Rocky Movie role
 
the hall never seemed to be about how good a fighter actually was but how much of an impact they seemed to make. Tarver ended the invincibility of someone who some see as the greatest fighter ever. Personally, I think he was about the same level of fighter that roy was routinely spanking a few years before, a good, competent pro but not especially good.
 
He’s in a grey area. These guys can get in in a weak year.
 
It really depends on who else is on the ballot.
 
It's the Hall of Fame I guess, and not the Hall of Objective Accomplishments. Being the first guy to legitimately beat Roy is a pretty big deal, even given the context.
 
Yes I think he'll get in I but I don't think he's worth it.
 
XThe GreatestX said:
I'm gonna say no.

He beat a shot Roy (after losing to him the first time). I thought their 3rd fight was kinda embarrassing tbh with Tarver getting hurt multiple times by Roy's corpse.

I think it was Emannuel Steward who commented that he saw Tarver as mentally weak.

and then the Hopkins thing happened where he got kinda humiliated.

Dawson whooped him twice

some good wins in there though. Obviously beat Roy. Beat Montell Griffin. Beat Glen Johnson after losing to him. Beat Eric Harding after losing to him. Beat Reggie Johnson. Stopped Danny Green, Jonathan Banks and beat Clinton Woods

watcha think
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I could see him ending up in the hall of fame. I don't know if he would be a first ballot, but guys like him. Eventually get in there.
 
I’ll say No.

How many times this guy pissed hot?
 
Does he give prime RJJ problems? Was he just a bad matchup for Jones?
 
I consider him to be a borderline HOFer. There are some BWAA members that consider him a HOFer that also voted for him like Lyle Fitzsimmons. I don't agree with some of the rest of his ballot but that's neither here nor there.

“My voting criteria, while admittedly not as scientific as some colleagues, is simple.

Was the fighter among the best in his peer group for a prolonged stretch of time? Not a one-year star or a popular guy who got TV time solely due to persona or style, but was he one of those guys – for at least a handful of years – who simply had to be on a short list of the best fighters in the world?

If the answer is yes – think Mayweather and Pacquiao – he’s got my vote.

If the answer is no – think Butterbean and Kardashian – he’s got my apologies.

So, with that, gentlemen… start your vitriol.
Antonio Tarver
Career: 1997-2015
Record: 31-6-1 (22)
Titles at: 175, 200
VOTE: YES

Yuri Arbachakov
Career: 1990-1997
Record: 23-1 (16)
Titles at: 112
VOTE: NO

Jorge Arce
Career: 1996-2014
Record: 64-8-2 (49)
Titles at: 108, 115, 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Paulie Ayala
Career: 1992-2004
Record: 35-3 (12)
Titles at: 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Nigel Benn
Career: 1987-1996
Record: 42-5-1 (35)
Titles at: 160, 168
VOTE: NO

Timothy Bradley
Career: 2004-2016
Record: 33-2-1 (13)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: NO

Vuyani Bungu
Career: 1987-2005
Record: 39-5 (19)
Titles at: 122, 126
VOTE: NO

Ivan Calderon
Career: 2001-2012
Record: 35-3-1 (6)
Titles at: 105, 108
VOTE: NO

Joel Casamayor
Career: 1996-2011
Record: 38-6-1 (22)
Titles at: 130, 135
VOTE: NO

Sot Chitalada
Career: 26-4-1 (16)
Record: 1983-1992
Titles at: 112
VOTE: NO

Diego Corrales
Career: 1996-2007
Record: 40-5 (33)
Titles at: 130, 135
VOTE: NO

Chris Eubank
Career: 1985-1998
Record: 45-5-2 (23)
Titles at: 160, 168
VOTE: NO

Carl Froch
Career: 2002-2014
Record: 33-2 (24)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Leo Gamez
Career: 1985-2005
Record: 35-12-1 (26)
Titles at: 105, 108, 112, 115
VOTE: NO

Ricky Hatton
Career: 1997-2012
Record: 45-3 (32)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: NO

Genaro Hernandez
Career: 1984-1998
Record: 38-2-1 (17)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Bernard Hopkins
Career: 1988-2016
Record: 55-8-2 (32)
Titles at: 160, 175
VOTE: YES

Chris John
Career: 1998-2013
Record: 48-1-3 (22)
Titles at: 126
VOTE: NO

Mikkel Kessler
Career: 1998-2013
Record: 46-3 (35)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Santos Laciar
Career: 1976-1990
Record: 79-10-11 (31)
Titles at: 112, 115
VOTE: NO

Rocky Lockridge
Career: 1978-1992
Record: 44-9 (36)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Miguel Lora
Career: 1979-1993
Record: 37-3 (17)
Titles at: 118
VOTE: NO

Sergio Martinez
Career: 1997-2014
Record: 51-3-2 (28)
Titles at: 154, 160
VOTE: NO

Juan Manuel Marquez
Career: 1993-2014
Record: 56-7-1 (40)
Titles at: 126, 130, 135
VOTE: YES

Rafael Marquez
Career: 1995-2013
Record: 41-9 (37)
Titles at: 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Henry Maske
Career: 1990-2007
Record: 31-1 (11)
Titles at: 175
VOTE: NO

Dariusz Michalczewski
Career: 1991-2005
Record: 48-2 (38)
Titles at: 175, 190
VOTE: NO

Sung-Kil Moon
Career: 1987-1993
Record: 20-2 (15)
Titles at: 115, 118
VOTE: NO

Michael Moorer
Career: 1988-2008
Record: 52-4-1 (40)
Titles at: 175, HWT
VOTE: NO

Shane Mosley
Career: 1993-2016
Record: 49-10-1 (41)
Titles at: 135, 147, 154
VOTE: YES

Orzubek Nazarov
Career: 1990-1998
Record: 26-1 (19)
Titles at: 135
VOTE: NO

Sven Ottke
Career: 1997-2004
Record: 34-0 (6)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Vinny Paz
Career: 1983-2004
Record: 50-10 (30)
Titles at: 135, 154, 168
VOTE: NO

Gilberto Roman
Career: 1981-1990
Record: 54-6-1 (35)
Titles at: 115
VOTE: NO

Gianfranco Rosi
Career: 1979-2006
Record: 62-6-1 (18)
Titles at: 154
VOTE: NO

Samuel Serrano
Career: 1969-1997
Record: 50-5-1 (17)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Meldrick Taylor
Career: 1984-2002
Record: 38-8-1 (20)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: YES

Fernando Vargas
Career: 1997-2007
Record: 26-5 (22)
Titles at: 154
VOTE: NO

Israel Vazquez
Career: 1995-2010
Record: 44-5 (32)
Titles at: 122
VOTE: NO

Wilfredo Vazquez
Career: 1981-2002
Record: 56-9-2 (41)
Titles at: 118, 122, 126
VOTE: NO

Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
Career: 1990-2009
Record: 59-8-1 (48)
Titles at: 105
VOTE: NO”
BHOF Modern Ballot: Rule Changes Create Tough Decisions For 2020
 
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Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
I consider him to be a borderline HOFer. There are some BWAA members that consider him a HOFer that also voted for him like Lyle Fitzsimmons. I don't agree with some of the rest of his ballot but that's neither here nor there.

“My voting criteria, while admittedly not as scientific as some colleagues, is simple.

Was the fighter among the best in his peer group for a prolonged stretch of time? Not a one-year star or a popular guy who got TV time solely due to persona or style, but was he one of those guys – for at least a handful of years – who simply had to be on a short list of the best fighters in the world?

If the answer is yes – think Mayweather and Pacquiao – he’s got my vote.

If the answer is no – think Butterbean and Kardashian – he’s got my apologies.

So, with that, gentlemen… start your vitriol.

Antonio Tarver
Career: 1997-2015
Record: 31-6-1 (22)
Titles at: 175, 200
VOTE: YES

Yuri Arbachakov
Career: 1990-1997
Record: 23-1 (16)
Titles at: 112
VOTE: NO

Jorge Arce
Career: 1996-2014
Record: 64-8-2 (49)
Titles at: 108, 115, 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Paulie Ayala
Career: 1992-2004
Record: 35-3 (12)
Titles at: 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Nigel Benn
Career: 1987-1996
Record: 42-5-1 (35)
Titles at: 160, 168
VOTE: NO

Timothy Bradley
Career: 2004-2016
Record: 33-2-1 (13)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: NO

Vuyani Bungu
Career: 1987-2005
Record: 39-5 (19)
Titles at: 122, 126
VOTE: NO

Ivan Calderon
Career: 2001-2012
Record: 35-3-1 (6)
Titles at: 105, 108
VOTE: NO

Joel Casamayor
Career: 1996-2011
Record: 38-6-1 (22)
Titles at: 130, 135
VOTE: NO

Sot Chitalada
Career: 26-4-1 (16)
Record: 1983-1992
Titles at: 112
VOTE: NO

Diego Corrales
Career: 1996-2007
Record: 40-5 (33)
Titles at: 130, 135
VOTE: NO

Chris Eubank
Career: 1985-1998
Record: 45-5-2 (23)
Titles at: 160, 168
VOTE: NO

Carl Froch
Career: 2002-2014
Record: 33-2 (24)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Leo Gamez
Career: 1985-2005
Record: 35-12-1 (26)
Titles at: 105, 108, 112, 115
VOTE: NO

Ricky Hatton
Career: 1997-2012
Record: 45-3 (32)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: NO

Genaro Hernandez
Career: 1984-1998
Record: 38-2-1 (17)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Bernard Hopkins
Career: 1988-2016
Record: 55-8-2 (32)
Titles at: 160, 175
VOTE: YES

Chris John
Career: 1998-2013
Record: 48-1-3 (22)
Titles at: 126
VOTE: NO

Mikkel Kessler
Career: 1998-2013
Record: 46-3 (35)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Santos Laciar
Career: 1976-1990
Record: 79-10-11 (31)
Titles at: 112, 115
VOTE: NO

Rocky Lockridge
Career: 1978-1992
Record: 44-9 (36)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Miguel Lora
Career: 1979-1993
Record: 37-3 (17)
Titles at: 118
VOTE: NO

Sergio Martinez
Career: 1997-2014
Record: 51-3-2 (28)
Titles at: 154, 160
VOTE: NO

Juan Manuel Marquez
Career: 1993-2014
Record: 56-7-1 (40)
Titles at: 126, 130, 135
VOTE: YES

Rafael Marquez
Career: 1995-2013
Record: 41-9 (37)
Titles at: 118, 122
VOTE: NO

Henry Maske
Career: 1990-2007
Record: 31-1 (11)
Titles at: 175
VOTE: NO

Dariusz Michalczewski
Career: 1991-2005
Record: 48-2 (38)
Titles at: 175, 190
VOTE: NO

Sung-Kil Moon
Career: 1987-1993
Record: 20-2 (15)
Titles at: 115, 118
VOTE: NO

Michael Moorer
Career: 1988-2008
Record: 52-4-1 (40)
Titles at: 175, HWT
VOTE: NO

Shane Mosley
Career: 1993-2016
Record: 49-10-1 (41)
Titles at: 135, 147, 154
VOTE: YES

Orzubek Nazarov
Career: 1990-1998
Record: 26-1 (19)
Titles at: 135
VOTE: NO

Sven Ottke
Career: 1997-2004
Record: 34-0 (6)
Titles at: 168
VOTE: NO

Vinny Paz
Career: 1983-2004
Record: 50-10 (30)
Titles at: 135, 154, 168
VOTE: NO

Gilberto Roman
Career: 1981-1990
Record: 54-6-1 (35)
Titles at: 115
VOTE: NO

Gianfranco Rosi
Career: 1979-2006
Record: 62-6-1 (18)
Titles at: 154
VOTE: NO

Samuel Serrano
Career: 1969-1997
Record: 50-5-1 (17)
Titles at: 130
VOTE: NO

Meldrick Taylor
Career: 1984-2002
Record: 38-8-1 (20)
Titles at: 140, 147
VOTE: YES

Fernando Vargas
Career: 1997-2007
Record: 26-5 (22)
Titles at: 154
VOTE: NO

Israel Vazquez
Career: 1995-2010
Record: 44-5 (32)
Titles at: 122
VOTE: NO

Wilfredo Vazquez
Career: 1981-2002
Record: 56-9-2 (41)
Titles at: 118, 122, 126
VOTE: NO

Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
Career: 1990-2009
Record: 59-8-1 (48)
Titles at: 105
VOTE: NO”
BHOF Modern Ballot: Rule Changes Create Tough Decisions For 2020
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my question to him would be why not chris eubank
 
My guess is that Tarver gets in soon enough...
ANTONIO “THE MAGIC MAN” TARVER TO BE
SPECIAL GUEST FOR 2020 HALL OF FAME WEEKEND

31st Annual Hall of Fame Weekend set for June 11-14th

CANASTOTA, NY - FEBRUARY 25, 2020 - The International Boxing Hall of Fame announced today Antonio “The Magic Man” Tarver will be a special guest for the 2020 Hall of Fame Weekend set for June 11-14 in “Boxing’s Hometown.”
tarver-web.jpg

“With a combination of charisma and skill, ‘The Magic Man’ brought boxing fans so many memorable moments during his championship career,” said Hall of Fame director Edward Brophy. “We are so happy that he will be in Canastota to be part of the 2020 Hall of Fame Weekend activities.”
Fighting out of Tampa, FL, Tarver capped an impressive amateur career by capturing light heavyweight bronze for the USA at the 1996 Olympic Games. As a pro he won multiple light heavyweight championships (WBA/ WBC / IBF / IBO) and the IBO cruiserweight title. Tarver's pro record stands at 31-6-1 (22 KOs) and includes wins over Reggie Johnson, Eric Harding, Montell Griffin, Roy Jones Jr., Glen Johnson, Clinton Woods and Danny Green and a draw with Steve Cunningham. In 2005, he portrayed Mason Dixon in Rocky Balboa opposite Sylvester Stallone.
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Antonio “The Magic Man” Tarver to be Special Guest for 2020 Hall of Fame Weekend
 
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