Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by uk fighter, Aug 2, 2010.
FUNNY CLIP I BROKE MY BACK
One of the Greatest boxers ever!
My favorite fighter in any discipline of all time ! Could've, would've, should've been the g.o.a.t ... but ... shit, unfortunately, happens.
He'll forever be one of boxing's biggest "what ifs".
Soo much talent and potential.
Regardless, he'll go down in history as one of the top 12 or top 15 HWs of all time....
tyson is top 10
To name a few
Ranking Tyson is kinda hard. I personally have Tyson at the 10th place in my list.
However, boxing afficionadoes tend to dispute this (pointing to his lack of heart and the fact that he lost to the other two great hws of his time: lennox and evander). Most unbiased boxing historians put him at 11, 12, or 13 of all time (Bert Sugar had him at 14). On the flip side, some ppl rate him higher (hell, George Foreman listed him at number 8 back in 2002).
Anyways, my list goes something like this:
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Jack Dempsey
7. George Foreman
8. Joe Frazier
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Mike Tyson
Mike Tyson makes the Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights list.
- Youngest Heavyweight Champ in history at 20 years old.
- Unified all 3 Titles in addition to capturing the lineal Title by destroying Michael Spinks (The Man who beat The Man who beat The Man, etc), thereby restoring order to the Title.
- Dominant Champion for a few years.
Mike Tyson still had tremendous accomplishments in the ring even if most think he had the ability to do much more.
What he did do is definitely enough to make the Top 10 list.
In 1986, '87, and '88, he was a phenomenal fighter, and Ring Magazine listed him pound-for-pound #1 with the legendary Julio Cesar Chavez coming it an #2.
Following them were fighters like Pernell Whitaker, Michael Nunn, Azumah Nelson, Meldrick Taylor.
No offense, dude, but a few names in there don't belong on Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights list, and you're missing a few names that do.
Thank you someone who knows the sport
Mike Tyson is overrated by some but hes still in the top 10 of all time imo.
I liked the way he punched people
LMFAO at Klintchoes being ranked above MIKE!!?? LOL WUT???? Choke yourself!!!!
Sven Ottke is that you?
All joking aside, Tyson should be ranked in the top 10 of all time.
Hypothetically, if he had died in an accident around 1992, boxing scribes/historians would have been much kinder to him and he would have been ranked then as one of the top 10 GHOAT. Revisionists, and the younger fans of the sport seem to have his post prison career etched in their minds, in which he was basically a shot fighter that still carried great power (his antics upset a lot of people and fans alike, so naturally he is an easy target to level strong criticism at), though the rot set in, almost immediately upon ditching Rooney et al after the Spinks fight.
The 3 year plus layoff in prison ruined him. It was to his credit that he captured a couple of titles back so soon after being released, albeit against weak and easily intimidated belt holders. Yes, you might say, but Ali had a similar layoff and he still did great things in his comeback. The big difference is that Ali was still sparring with the likes of Ellis and putting on exhibitions. I have a black and white interview with Ali being interviewed by Harry Carpenter just before his comeback. He was asked if the layoff would have damaged his chances of being an elite fighter again. Ali replied that though he hadn't boxed officially, he had stayed in shape the whole time and continued to spar throughout. Tyson did not tread a similar path and it showed.
The Tyson that dominated the latter half of the 1980s was an awesome and phenomenal fighting machine. He seemed almost to have been bred to fight from coming out of the crib. On those achievements alone, he deserves to occupy a slot between 8- 10 on the GHOAT list. Potentially, he was easily top 5, but as we know he blew it.
The Tyson of post 1995, was a drug using, power punching bully, that lacked drive and belief once things stopped going his way. The layoff, drugs, inadequate training, nightlife and bully's mentality all played havoc with his stamina. Get him past 3 rounds and your odds of winning went through the roof. Still, the shell of a fighter he once was, was an elite heavyweight throughout the 90s, which is a testament to how great he was first time round. Lewis, Williams, etc admitted that they had beaten a shell of the fighter that once was, and lets not forget that fact.
Vitali would wreck Tyson. Wlad may struggle, hell he may even get beat but that doesn't change the fact that both those guys have been more dominant than Tyson was for longer periods of time.
I agree with this guy
Definitely one of my favorite fighters.
Outside of this forum Mike Tyson is usually vastly over rated or criminally under rated.
You will either hear "who did he beat, really? He was an over rated bully" or you'll hear "he would have beat Ali, Fraser and Foreman in the same night! He was a killing machine until Cus died!"
Either way, people will be talking about him for years after he's gone.
Lower end of the top ten imo. Deserves to be ranked higher than both Klits.
Exactly...there is a HUGE difference between 80's Tyson and tailend of career Tyson. Klitchkos would of looked like Berbick at best against prime Mike.
Tyson will always be the boxing world's greatest "what if?", and one of it's biggest tragedies.
With the phenomenal physical gifts he possessed, combined with the work ethic, determination, and boxing IQ he exhibited in his early career, he could have remained unstoppable. Unfortunately, immaturity, and poor management resulted in his downfall. It's really rather sad to think about the fighter he could have been.
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