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Iran Hostage Believes Ransom was Paid by Obama Administration

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Hans Gruber, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. JonnyRingo84 Gold Belt

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    the obama admin claims that this money was disputed owed money to iran anyway. id wager that theyre telling the truth, but that only when they needed these hostages did they decide to pay up. so its a de facto ransom that was paid. politically they can thereby claim that it wasnt to both citizens and iran.
     
  2. xcvbn Gold Belt

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    Wrong. You're just regurgitating the shit spewed on TV news. And even if there were a numbered list of state sponsors of terror, the Saudi's would absolutely be in the lead followed by Qatar and Pakistan.

    As for the first part, a deals a deal. It's why we still do business with the Russians, Chinese, and now the Iranians- because it's beneficial(to few but those few call the shots).
     
  3. Rod1 Titanium Belt

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    So America should steal Iranian assets? thats what you are saying?
     
  4. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    I haven't looked into whether Iran sees it as Random or not but regardless it doesn't matter what they say it is and what the hostage says it is, the fact is this money was payment for a old deal , payment that was arrived at at teh Hague.

    That is some huge bias you have there, just typical Fox News, NewsMax , NeoCon bullshit peddled to Americans and then conservative Americans regurgitate that crap. Terrorism itself is a very politically biased term, it is nothing but a propaganda tool used to demonize the other side. If you want to talk about 'terrorism' maybee you should not ignore Pakistan,Saudi and not least the United States which has been supporting terrorism when it suits US interests.

    Terror victims should go after Saudi and Pakistan then. What about Palestinians going after Israel for its own state terror, or wait the US court system only allows cases to go through that suit US and allies nations' interests.
     
  5. Hans Gruber Gold Belt

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    Yeah...the State Department is biased and pushes out "Fox News neo con bullshit"

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/state-department-report-terrorism/

    "The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism"

    Opps on your part.

    Also, what I said was true. Congress voted that the victims of Iranian terror would have first dibs on the frozen money. The Supreme Court also ruled in the victims' favor.

    "The “Iran Threat Reduction and Syria Human Rights Act of 2012” is a highly unusual law. It was passed after the families of over 1,000 victims of Iranian-sponsored terrorism filed lawsuits, beginning in 2008, under a set of laws enabling such suits. In particular, various laws made available any assets that had been frozen pursuant to economic sanctions, such as those formerly in place against Iran."

    The victims haven't received their money yet but Iran got 1st dibs
     
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  6. milliniar Who needs a belt?

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    Not like Obama would be the first president to pay for hostages even if it was true
     
  7. Hans Gruber Gold Belt

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    Listen to myself? What you are calling me out on is true. See my above post

    I already know what the Obama administration was claiming.

    Put it this way

    Pretend Boogie Man Bin Laden took over the country (using him since everyone knows the name) - and that country became the #1 State sponsor of terrorism. You are telling me that we should unfreeze the money 36 years later when they are still the #1 state sponsor of terrorism?

    Seriously?

    Another example to drive it home and simplify it. We make a deal with Germany. Hitler takes over and overthrows those that are in charge and starts invading the world. While he is doing this you think we should send Germany money? Be honest now.
     
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    Did you see some type of refrigeration unit on the plane?
     
  9. Rod1 Titanium Belt

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    Yes, lets ignore the last 5 years and the major multinational sanction relief agreement that was reached with Iran, instead lets make asinine analogies.

    And terrorism is such a BS word, in Saudi Arabia atheists are terrorists, therefore Saudi Arabia is a state that fights terrorism am i right?

    Iran funds proxy groups, Turkey funds proxy groups, GCC funds proxy groups and America specially loves to fund proxy groups.

    Focus instead on which groups consistently attack the west and you will see that Iran is not even close to the top of the list.

    That would be your homeboys Turkey and the GCC.
     
  10. Malvo Purple Belt

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    Yes:D
     
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    That's rich coming from you especially after what you did to the Nakatomi plaza.
     
  12. Bilbo Gaggins King of DILIGAF Banned

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    you are crushing this guy (3 times so far), although funny, you might be bullying a disabled.
     
  13. Hans Gruber Gold Belt

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    You were saying?

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-held-cash-until-iran-freed-prisoners-1471469256

    WASHINGTON—New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran.

    The State Department admitted Thursday that the US would not hand over $400 million in cash to Iran until it released four American hostages — two weeks after President Obama insisted the payment was not a “ransom.”

    State Department spokesman John Kirby was asked at Thursday’s press briefing: “In basic English, you’re saying you wouldn’t give them $400 million in cash until the prisoners were released, correct?”

    “That’s correct,” Kirby replied.
     
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  14. Hans Gruber Gold Belt

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    Crushing me Dildo Gaggins?

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-held-cash-until-iran-freed-prisoners-1471469256

    WASHINGTON—New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran.

    The State Department admitted Thursday that the US would not hand over $400 million in cash to Iran until it released four American hostages — two weeks after President Obama insisted the payment was not a “ransom.”

    State Department spokesman John Kirby was asked at Thursday’s press briefing: “In basic English, you’re saying you wouldn’t give them $400 million in cash until the prisoners were released, correct?”

    “That’s correct,” Kirby replied."


    WHOOPS

    How is making lame jokes about ice cream crushing me? The dude's face in his AV aligns perfectly with his posts

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  15. TheStruggle Yellow Card Banned

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    So first it wasn't a ransom, now it's just a good business deal. You guys will go to ridiculous lengths to defend Obama
     
  16. Trump could have got it down to $100 million.
     
  17. HereticBD Plutonium Belt

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    No, no, no, not "ransom". It was "leverage".
     
  18. Lol, Hans got shit on and was right in the end.

    How's that crow taste gents?
     
  19. Hans Gruber Gold Belt

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    The more Obama denies it the truth becomes real if that makes sense.
     

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