IQ: Yea or Nay?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Cubo de Sangre, Sep 7, 2018.

?

How do you view IQ tests?

  1. They are accurately measuring something enough to be a predictor of success.

  2. They are culturally and educationally biased bullshit.

  3. IQ more or less measures intelligence (which is greatly influenced by early environment).

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    39,340
    Likes Received:
    42,388
    Location:
    Hell
    Surely you've already made up your minds about IQ and here's a video anyway.



    • IQ is the best measurement in social sciences.
    • IQ is the greatest predictor of success.
    • The military says that people with an IQ under 83 are ineligible (i.e. useless).
    • 10% of people are under 83.
    • Unruly behavior at age four correlates highly with criminal behavior at 15-20.
    • Interviewer gives a speech as a question.

    This all got me thinking about both the morality and public necessity of taking care of people who sincerely can't contribute in a capitalist society. It also got me thinking that effective state intervention is going to require getting involved far earlier than the age when antisocial behavior turns to criminal activity.

    This topic can go any number of ways, including the morality of a punitive legal system, so feel free to spitball thoughts.

    *no fact-checking took place prior to the posting of this thread. :eek:
     
  2. Trotsky

    Trotsky Gold Belt

    Joined:
    May 20, 2016
    Messages:
    20,558
    Likes Received:
    51,654
    1 and 3 aren't mutually exclusive, as many imperfect metrics can be said to effectively predict success. I went with 3, though, since it's a bit more comprehensive.

    EDIT: But, to be sure, unless you're meaning to imply in option one that it is a measure of an innate characteristic regardless of environment, the correct answer is a combination of all three options. Of course any metric is arguably "biased" by nature of how we have historically perceived, methodologically approached, and socially utilized intelligence.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
  3. tonni

    tonni Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2017
    Messages:
    11,378
    Likes Received:
    25,546
    Location:
    Belgium
    *no fact-checking took place prior to the posting of this thread.

    <{katwhu}>
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
  4. Sketch

    Sketch ?.?.?.?.?.?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Messages:
    27,695
    Likes Received:
    23,546
    Location:
    .....
    Having a low IQ will hold you back. Some will say, well certain countries and people aren't used to our knowledge system. But they will fail to recognize that the western view on intelligence is the best in the world. Top universities etc. IQ is something a lot of people would love to sweep under the rug.
     
  5. M3t4tr0n

    M3t4tr0n Sheriff of Sherfront

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    24,093
    Likes Received:
    39,551
    Location:
    Flat Earth
    Are you advocating for welfare for people who are below a certain IQ level?
     
    HomerThompson, Rod1, bad seed and 4 others like this.
  6. tonni

    tonni Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2017
    Messages:
    11,378
    Likes Received:
    25,546
    Location:
    Belgium
    I think he’s advocating eugenetics based on puzzle solving abilities
     
  7. Sketch

    Sketch ?.?.?.?.?.?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Messages:
    27,695
    Likes Received:
    23,546
    Location:
    .....
    Ah, the accusations begin!

    I admit, I did enjoy the puzzle solving abilities reductionist post you have made to belittle IQ.
     
  8. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    39,340
    Likes Received:
    42,388
    Location:
    Hell
    Astute. They also don't necessarily go hand in hand. ;)
     
    Wadtucket likes this.
  9. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    39,340
    Likes Received:
    42,388
    Location:
    Hell

    Have at it. That was a subtle invite to challenge whatever you like.
     
  10. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    39,340
    Likes Received:
    42,388
    Location:
    Hell
    I'm advocating discussion. Are you able to contribute in either an honest or positive fashion? :)
     
  11. 7437

    7437 Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    21,686
    Likes Received:
    16,835
    ..... what do you mean not take care of people who can't contribute? Like babies? I don't think killing all babies is a viable long term solution.
     
  12. Trotsky

    Trotsky Gold Belt

    Joined:
    May 20, 2016
    Messages:
    20,558
    Likes Received:
    51,654
    If you had a higher IQ, you'd have picked up on his comedic tone.

    Or would you have?

    #discussions
     
  13. Sketch

    Sketch ?.?.?.?.?.?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Messages:
    27,695
    Likes Received:
    23,546
    Location:
    .....
    I've seen him post before and he's not kidding.
     
  14. Wadtucket

    Wadtucket Semi-professional hair historian Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2014
    Messages:
    14,898
    Likes Received:
    70,598
    Location:
    South Bronx, Albania
    I scored 82 so I think it's bullshit!
     
  15. Fawlty

    Fawlty moist robot Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Messages:
    33,042
    Likes Received:
    65,050
    Location:
    War Room Lounge
    This post is the correct answer to the unintentional IQ test in the poll.

    Trotsky has a higher IQ than you if you did not go through a similar thought process.
     
    Cake4Breakfast and HomerThompson like this.
  16. Trotsky

    Trotsky Gold Belt

    Joined:
    May 20, 2016
    Messages:
    20,558
    Likes Received:
    51,654
    @Cubo de Sangre
    <[analyzed}>
     
  17. genecop

    genecop Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    9,461
    Likes Received:
    10,227
    Don’t know much about it, but I think , I’m Smart, not like they say..
     
  18. Fawlty

    Fawlty moist robot Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Messages:
    33,042
    Likes Received:
    65,050
    Location:
    War Room Lounge
    I would bet there are more than 10 posters here north of 145.
     
  19. Sketch

    Sketch ?.?.?.?.?.?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Messages:
    27,695
    Likes Received:
    23,546
    Location:
    .....
    I would say 11, but 11 and 10 aren't mutually exclusive.
     
  20. Fawlty

    Fawlty moist robot Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Messages:
    33,042
    Likes Received:
    65,050
    Location:
    War Room Lounge
    Integeresting cuntclusion
     
    mrsenor and Sketch like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.