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Interim "titles" are a disgrace and cheapen what it means to be a UFC champion

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  1. DoctorDeelon Brown Belt

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    Dana White's go-to line was always "we looked at what boxing was doing wrong" as the blueprint for himself and the Fertitas to follow in building up the UFC.

    But if you talk to boxing fans, the biggest complaint is that there are too many belts. And here Dana is promoting a fake fucking title as he has done so often in the past. This is not for a world championship, it's a glorified #1 contender spot.

    There's no reason for an interim title. If a champion can't defend for a long period, strip him and have two guys fight for the vacant belt. But seeing as how Ngannou just won the title like 4 months ago, that doesn't really apply.

    And it means nothing. Nobody looked at Justin Gaethje, Tony Ferguson or Dustin Poirier as world champions. It's fake. Nobody acknowledges it. So why does Dana try to con us? The winner of Gane/Lewis is not going to be a world champ.
     
  2. 2004 account For a fair sport/true mma fan, ain't no shill

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    Lately, The fake belt is purely used as a marketing tool by the ufc to either increase value or devalue x fighter's standing
     
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  3. aali14 Silver Belt

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    It's a way to force the champion to fight a challenger these days
     
  4. Mavrilicious Green Belt

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    This and it forces the champion to be more active. Its not without its own prestige and merit.
     
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  5. GrantB13 Red Belt

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    Interim titles are stupid when it isn't because a fighter is forced out of competition from an injury or something. The UFC just likes to use them as a tool for one reason or another.
     
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    It’s really not that serious.

    At the end of the day these two guys get paid more money. As far as I’m concerned it’s a win
     
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  7. BFoe Western States Heritage Champion Platinum Member

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    They don’t really, if they’re done right. If you make interim titles constantly and needlessly like the UFC constantly does, then you devalue them and the real belt too.
     
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  8. DanAndroid Living vicariously through Dillon Danis.

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    They don't last forever, interim will either unify or dissolve. Comparing an interim belt the the multiple belts per weightclass via different sanctioning bodies is dumb. dial back the outrage. You point out three examples of people not considered champions with their interim belt, but what about Couture, Whittaker, Israel, or Barao? Not all interim belts are created equal, some are clearly for marketing purposes. There is nothing wrong with that.
     
  9. I am the Walrus Orange Belt

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    At the end of the day it slows down "Real title fights" the winner of Gane v Lewis will have to take another 4-6 months before they can fight again for the real title. Had they just drawn out the negotiation process a bit longer we could have seen Ngannou fight sooner.

    We deserve to see him fight as much as possible during his prime, I feel cheated as a fan
     
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  10. Shishio Brown Belt

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    Some Interims are validated other not so much....by my math 5ish out of the 20 interims have been valid, so yeah largely a bullshit wasting of time due to someone's ego

    Arlovski-Theyre not sure how long Mir will be out, once they know it wont be soon they upped arlovski, this one was fine
    Nogueira/Mir/Carwin-made solely to put Lesnar against the actual champ, complete waste of time
    Werdum-same as Arlovski basically, Champ (Cain) is injured
    Lewis vs Gane-total bullshit this is clearly cus of Jones being a prick/cheating
    Couture-pointless Tito didnt wanna fight chuck, then lost to both anyways
    Jones-Pointless meandering bullshit cus of Jones cheating
    Whittaker-Bullshit cus Bisping wanted to avenge his Hendo Loss
    Israel--same as Arlovski basically, Champ (Whittaker) is injured
    GSP--same as Arlovski basically, Champ (Serra) is injured
    Carlos Condit-UFC was trying to push Diaz cus he was super popular but he fucked it up then got a TS anyways
    Covington-this one is dumb between injuries and Colby/Tyron being a bitch its all over the place
    Ferguson-Bullshit made to protect McGregor from defending the actual belt
    Poirier-Semi bullshit Khabib gets suspended for eagle kicking Conor's team
    Gaethje-Covid bullshit
    Conor McGregor-Semi bullshit, they wanted to put a belt on Conor but Aldo is injured
    Aldo-Same as Ferguson made because Conor refused to defend either title
    Holloway-Not gonna lie I dont really know/remember why this needed to happen, I think they wanted to put a belt on Pettis
    Renan Barao-same as Arlovski basically, Champ (Cruz) is injured
     
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  11. finalboss Brown Belt

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    Interim belts are just 2nd place awards.
     
  12. Dirty Frank el ballsbreaker

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    Totally agree.
     
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  13. TempleoftheDog Black Belt

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    The new “active” champ Ngannou clearly ducked Lewis when they needed a ME for a ppv. Stipe defended 4 months after winning the belt. Why couldn’t Ngannou do it in 5 months? Being so “active” and all? And as it turns out, the BW title fight has actually been pulled from the event.

    Imagine trying to sell a ppv with merely a number 1 contender fight? Do any of you people think before you post? Or are you just a fan of Ngannou?
     
  14. Black Paladin Funniest Sherdogger, P4P

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    Is there anything in the UFC business that they are consistent with? Are there ANY things that are dealt with in a consistent fashion?

    A prize to anyone for this scavenger hunt.
     
  15. laleggenda27 Brown Belt

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    The UFC has made all the same mistakes/decisions that turned boxing into a small niche sport:
    • The ppv model
    • Too many titles
    • Corrupt/incompetent judging
    • Not allowing cross-promotion, i.e., preventing certain fights from ever happening
    At this point, the UFC's saving grace is that most of the sport's best fighters are under their umbrella.
     
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  16. TheMaster Take The Road To Reality

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  17. First Day UFC Intern Orange Belt

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    BMF belt basically is just a popularity contest, you can give that belt to youtuber at this point honestly.
     
  18. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    Its just going more and more this way. Doubt it can be stopped at this point
     
  19. jsbx45 Black Belt

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    This fight is a BS marketing gimmick and UFC trying to leverage thier position with Ngannou and Jones. It is not a bad fight really, but for the belt? C'mon man, this is #1 bullshit whether you are a Ngannou fan or not.
     
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  20. JPhenomenal Blue Belt

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    I generally agree with this statement. BUT, Dana was vindicated for booking this fight because of what happened to Nunes
     

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