Interested to see how the mouse becomes viewed over time...

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Cleveland, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Cleveland Sherdog Belt

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    I've never understood the 'greatest fighter ever' association with the mouse. He has no doubt upped his finishing percentage against increasingly less credible competition (Elliott? Reis? Borg? none had a single top 10 win coming into their title shot...) but has always struggled with strong wrestlers and seems to get a pass for the Cruz loss.

    After losing to Dom, the argument became that he was too small for 135 but is peerless while hiding out in the division below. Unfortunately the CSAC has just about killed that claim:
    Main card (PPV)
    T.J. Dillashaw (135 pounds to 149.5 pounds = 10.7%) def. Cody Garbrandt (134.7 to 142 = 5.2%)

    Henry Cejudo (124.5 to 141 = 12.8%) def. Demetrious Johnson (125 to 142 = 13.6%)
    https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/...ut-six-fighters-come-in-over-csac-regulations

    Cutting from within 3 pounds of FW, to fight also ran 135ers, while claiming to be the all-time P4P best is embarrassing. Depending on who drank more BODYARMOUR between rounds MM may have outweighed Cody in the cage...

    It'll be interesting to see if they book the rematch or if they feed Cejudo to Dillasnake. Despite being within a few pounds, I maintain that any of Tj/Cody/Cruz run roughshod over the 125s.
     
  2. Fantasy Banned Banned

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    B-b-b-b MUH TITLE DEFENSES
     
  3. TinkleMan Banned Banned

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    Just another champion , not willing to move up and challenge himself . Ducked tj. Most of his fights are boring as fuck
     
  4. Mr.Maelstrom "Pull up" Belt

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    He'll be seen as a great talent who gladly dominated a thin division while very few were looking
     
  5. SuperNerd Off Season Mode.

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    He earned a 135 title shot. He lost. The UFC opened a new weight class. Do you think anyone, the fans or UFC, was begging for DJ to hang around at 135 while a division of no stars fought over a new title? DJ didn't run from anything. He fought and did very well at 135, better than most fighters ever will. Then did really well in another weight class, and that's embarrassing, Cleveland from Sherdog?

    Are we supposed to take you seriously? You're not impressing anybody.
     
  6. Nightwish Brown Belt

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    Weight matters. Thats why Fedor is the GOAT.
     
  7. Cleveland Sherdog Belt

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    I'm not downplaying his success in either division. I take issue with his own (along with Rogan on a given week) insistence that he is the best mixed martial artist ever.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/demetriou...ter-tying-silvas-title-defence-record-1617161

    He was only the best of the guys who couldn't hack it at 135 (Benavidez and Dodson included).

    Given that DJ was fighting within a few pounds of what TJ/Cody/Cruz are at 135, his claim to 'pound for pound' and best ever should be seen as invalid.
     
  8. screaminleeman Red Belt

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    He's gonna be viewed same as ever. Through a telescope, or "jumbo screen" at live events, or of wide angle lens camera(s) in televised events. He will be forgotten along with the 125 UFC Flyweight division in 10.9.8.7.......
     
  9. Makani Ain't Nobody Ever Been Free

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    Ha, all these white belts ragging on Mighty Mouse. The future is dark for MMA.
     
  10. Cat Biscuits Black Belt

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    Incredibly weak competition, but still managed to put out some of the most boring fights ever. If he was GOAT, he'd be steamrolling those guys.
     
  11. Agnawedbone Red Belt

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    You guys are in the wrong forum. This for mma fans not weirdo height fetishists. So pathetic.
     
  12. MMAProfessional Golden Belt

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    He had a lot of dominant fights...finished most of his opponents impressively. He starched Joey and Cejudo the first time, subbed Reis a very dominate BJJ fighter.
     
  13. pick999 Gold Belt

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    shut up
     
  14. TinkleMan Banned Banned

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  15. Jim Gilmore Green Belt

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    I have always said he sucks. I continue to believe he sucks. I will always believe he sucks.

    Anyone over 5'10 with 1 year of improved cardio, not even MMA training, just cardio can beat him up.

    That's not an attack on him personally, it's just physics.
     
  16. notori0us1 Banned Banned

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    Lol casual. MM's fights are more interesting than the majority of HW fights which are supposed to be normal sized human beings.

    He has the latest finish ever, the best submission ever and has knockouts too. More finishes than GSP.
     
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  18. TinkleMan Banned Banned

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    More finishes than gsp? Wow that's really impressive gsp was also boring as fuck
     
  19. notori0us1 Banned Banned

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    That 5'10" would also get mauled by a HW. What's your point you ignorant fuck? We have weight classes for a reason. Are you honestly telling me a guy like TJ isn't amazingly skilled? Some of us high IQ fans actually watch this sport for the actual fighting and not to fantasize about the fighters being able to beat us in a street fight or fuck our girlfriends like cucks like you
     
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    Not just GSP but a lot of fighters. MM is very fun to watch if you are actually interest in fighting itself.
     

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