Integrity of the sport ... Does it matter to you?

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Does the integrity of mma as a sport matter to you?

If not
Why waste your time watching mma , just watch pro wrestling.

If so
Are you a fan of a brand or a fan of the sport ?

Can you be a fan of both without conflict of interest ?

Also if you put the brand above sport , does that make you a fanboy , ignorant consumer just like fanboys from the console wars?


What would you do to improve mma as a sport ?
 
Have a legit voted HOF and hespect the legends. UFC needs to embrace it's history and assume the role of being the face of MMA by presenting the legends in a good light.

Stephan Bonnar is in the HOF and Sakuraba is not.
 
SenseiSeagalMMA said:
Have a legit voted HOF and hespect the legends. UFC needs to embrace it's history and assume the role of being the face of MMA by presenting the legends in a good light.

Stephan Bonnar is in the HOF and Sakuraba is not.
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Bonnar did more for the UFC than Sakuraba, easily.
 
I dont think most "fans" of mixed martial arts care one bit about the integrity of the sport. If the comments I see on a routine basis are any indication, most take everything they see for granted and refuse to think for themselves. Sheep.
 
Absolutely I care if the sport has integrity. If not, I would watch something fake. I do thing the ufc tries to rewrites history which sort of takes some of it away
 
Depends what you mean by 'integrity of the sport'. I want legit competition, as in nothing fixed, but I also don't lose my mind when they make a money fight for the title.

I also don't think the occasional mismatch is the end of the world as guys running clinics can be a lot of fun. I have no problem with guys fighting to a stalemate if they come by it honestly, but I also don't want to see fight after fight where guys neutralize each other and very little happens. Variety is the spice of life type shit.

I would change the judging criteria, but since it's not going to happen anytime soon, I'll pass on expanding.
 
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Yes integrity of the sport matters to me.

I like MMA. The UFC just happens to be the largest brand but as a fan I have watched other promotions when possible although I do not have as much access to live MMA as I would like.

I believe it is possible to be a brand fan and an MMA fan at the same time. I consider myself to fall into this category for the most part. I don't seek out the smaller organizations as much as I should but at the same time when Bellator was hosting a show in my area I paid for myself and a friend to go to the event so that he could see MMA that was not UFC related.

The first improvements that the sport requires in my opinion is judging. Hands down this area has the largest impact on the outcome of events and is sadly too inconsistent.
 
Are there any specific issues compromising the integrity of the sport you'd specifically like to address? Trying to narrow it down here...
 
My interest in professional sports has declined over time, due to the lack of "Integrity of the sport," as you would say. Any boxing fan certainly knows what I mean: an amazing sport (regarding the technical aspects) that also is a disaster (on the business side).

MMA is interesting because of the effort of the fighters, not because of any particular brand, and I do expect interest to decline over time.
 
chefdiablo said:
The first improvements that the sport requires in my opinion is judging. Hands down this area has the largest impact on the outcome of events and is sadly too inconsistent.
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Judging is the one of the first improvements necessary in both boxing and MMA, and let us guess what they have in common on this issue.
 
Naf L time said:
Does the integrity of mma as a sport matter to you?

If not
Why waste your time watching mma , just watch pro wrestling.

If so
Are you a fan of a brand or a fan of the sport ?

Can you be a fan of both without conflict of interest ?

Also if you put the brand above sport , does that make you a fanboy , ignorant consumer just like fanboys from the console wars?


What would you do to improve mma as a sport ?
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People have talked a lot of shit on the internet.

But what it comes down to, is this.

UFC thinks its brand is bigger than the sport.
 
I think the UFC and MMA in general are right on track heading exactly in the direction they need to be going. Popularity is increasing each year with Dana at the helm. He's doing an awesome job. The sport gets better and better each year.
 
Naf L time said:
Does the integrity of mma as a sport matter to you?

If not
Why waste your time watching mma , just watch pro wrestling.

If so
Are you a fan of a brand or a fan of the sport ?

Can you be a fan of both without conflict of interest ?

Also if you put the brand above sport , does that make you a fanboy , ignorant consumer just like fanboys from the console wars?


What would you do to improve mma as a sport ?
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I absolutely am a fan of both, and don't understand why people think that's impossible. I guess most fans don't understand the difference between the sport of MMA and the art of pro wrestling.
 
spid3yo said:
I absolutely am a fan of both, and don't understand why people think that's impossible. I guess most fans don't understand the difference between the sport of MMA and the art of pro wrestling.
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I think people can be a fan of both. Even though I'm not a pro wrestling fan, I don't get all of the rage people express when comparing MMA and pro wrestling. There's no everlap what so ever! Someone can be a fan of both. Pro wrestling is not detrimental to MMA. It's just a different thing altogether
 
At the end of the day people need to realize that this is a gambling event first and foremost. It's run by casino owners, and while there is a great deal of athleticism and technique involved, it's in essence the same as horse racing. Fights are real, finishes are real (some im skeptical about), judges are where the house always wins.

I still enjoy watching it, but I dont see it becoming a real major league like sport under current ownership with no fighters union.
 
Don't watch boxing, kickboxing, or MMA then. Prizefighting will always be this way.
 
I care for the integrity of he sport, though if I'm honest I have some blatant double-standards between fighters I support and the opportunities they are provided with, close decisions they get the nod in etc, and fighters I dislike.

In short, I think I am a regular guy with biases.

That still doesn't mean I want to see MMA degrade into pro-wrestling.
 
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