Discussion in 'The War Room' started by feedmelies, May 22, 2014.
Privatized profits, socialized losses - The American dream
Has not yet even begun to get absurd. Love that the President is on TV apologizing for the broken VA system, yet Liberals think that putting the entire country under government health care is a good idea.
The impossible made possible.
Yup. Its only the free market as long as I am winning. When I lose, ill want the govt to help me out.
Not just eh American dream.
Its capitalism in the western world, and its a shame too many right of centre people do not get it.
I agree with you but 'The American dream' is a symbol.
I'm not really seeing the problem.
Insurers can't turn people away. Some of them get lucky and get more profitable enrolees. Some of them get unlucky. This balances the scales so that the unlucky ones don't go out of business.
Guess some people would rather the companies go out of business so they can gloat about the horrific failure of the ACA.
Fuck insurance companies.
sounds like more free money to the insurance companies. WellPoint made ~4billion more in 2013 then they did in 2012.
Insurance companies are not only enjoying ripping off customers who are forced to buy something they don't want, they also get free money for the FEDS for making more money than ever. How fortunate.
67 billion in 2012
71billion in 2013
So I guess "bailout" is the new "terrorism," in that it is used inappropriately to describe anything that you want to make unpopular. Orwell is turning over in his grave.
Yeah, I'd bet that no one else who has posted in this thread even knows what the program is. They just see "bailout" and think, "fuck those guys!" "Bailout" has a meaning. This is not a bailout.
I don't really blame the GOP for this kind of idiocy. Their propagandists have a job to do. But holy moly, why does anyone buy this stuff?
1. I think part of the problem is that we were told Obamacare would decrease health expenditures. Now health insurance premiums are rising drastically and insurers still cannot break even.
2. It was the opponents of Obamacare who warned that it would drive insurance companies out of business. Now for pointing out that it is pushing insurance companies deeply into the red and transforming formerly profitable ventures into government dependents they are somehow hoping insurance companies fail?
3. Luck does not exist. Insurance companies are losing money because the law is badly written.
Because they're massive corporate algorithms designed to make money. They don't sell a tangible product they just sell fear and they make billions off it.
It's not like they're a car industry where a bailout is not only going to help the manufacturer but all the people who make parts, services etc and have a follow on affect that is greater than the input.
It's just going into companies that sell nothing.
Maybe I'm biased because my opinion of insurance agencies is that this part of the movie is completely non-fictional.
But again, the auto industry was actually bailed out. This is not a bailout. This is just basically hedging.
The VA incident was just an anomaly.
Shinseki will fix. Obama's got his back.
Crushing social commentary.
Absolutely soul crushing.
It's hard to lose money when people are forced to buy your product and the government backstops your losses, I guess. :icon_conf
Would the people complaining about this be okay with single payer?
Wouldn't that make even less sense then?
Rather than giving them money when they might actually need it to save the industry they're giving it out when they're still turning large profits.
I am. Then again I live in a country that already has it.
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