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Instructors with great credentials that aren't great teachers

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by powerbull, Apr 12, 2008.

  1. powerbull

    powerbull White Belt

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    Anyone have a BJJ (or other kind) of instructor that has great credentials i.e. black belt, past top competitor, but doesn't teach well?
    I have a professor that is top notch in knowledge and credentials. He is very good at BJJ, but does not teach well in my opinion. He shows some techniques and then has everyone roll. He never gives feedback or shows the key basics. When a good blue or purple belt is training with me I learn more, see where my mistakes are made, and get key basics that would have been nice from the start.
     
  2. blink_man182

    blink_man182 Black Belt

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    If you feel that way, you should ask questions to get details of what your suppose to be doing.
     
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    distorted White Belt

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    agreed, and if you feel too uncomfortable asking questions, you either need to get over your shyness (so to speak), and if thats not the problem, you're at the wrong gym.
     
  4. Vedic

    Vedic Purple Belt

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    Lots of great competitors are horrible coaches.
     
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    Trickster*** Banned Banned

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    I might be considered annoying to others people in my class...I dont know, but I ask Joey if I have any questions as he teaches. I dont interupt him of course but Im not shy to ask him "what if" or "could you" or whatever....

    Speak up!
     
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    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    The answer is yes. But I won't name names.
     
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    Deloitte Blue Belt

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    Joey hates you. :icon_twis
     
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    Kakkarot White Belt

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    Prokofievian Silver Belt

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    Miyagi say, no such thing bad student, only bad teachah...teachah say, student do.
     
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    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    i haven't come accross many poor instructors myself, at least not in bjj
     
  11. Cash Bill 52

    Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    The best competitors are usually not the best coaches.

    Scotty Bowman
    Red Auerbach
    Vince Lombardi
    Tommy Lasorda

    Michael and Magic don't coach. I doubt Tiger Woods would have patience with a noob golfer.

    We all learned from the blues and purples.
     
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    Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    I'm a double posting fool.:redface:
     
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    Reveen Purple Belt

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    A lot of people have been lately.
     
  14. powerbull

    powerbull White Belt

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    bump
    I thought this might be a common thing. There are not alot of options in my area so it sucks to take what you can get.
     
  15. txfighter13

    txfighter13 Purple Belt

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    Any of the competitors esp. at an international level are not good teachers mostly because they either don't speak english or do not know how to develop a class correctly.
     
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    txfighter13 Purple Belt

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    That is very true we usually do not learn all of the information from the very top person around us. It is usually to a large degree the people directly above us. One of my friends in the medical school and he says that the teachers of his class are the medical students with one more year of experience. The real doctors are to far removed to understand and have the patience for what they are going through. It is the same way a lot times in martial arts.
     
  17. Tony Manifold

    Tony Manifold Brown Belt

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    It is a rare person who is a phenomenal athlete and phenomenal coach. Most of the guys that are great athletes pick up stuff relatively easy that is part of how they end up better than other people. The best coaches tend to be the guys that are pretty good but not as naturally gifted because they have to understand the tehcniques at a level that talented guys don't. But man, those guys that have both are pretty impressive.
     
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    JerseyTrash Silver Belt

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    One thing that most instructors do, or don't do for that matter, and it pisses me off, is that they don't point out what you were doing wrong. Most of them just keep showing the example over and over. In your head you'll be thinking "But that's how i thought i did it", and they won't tell you exactly what you did. They'll just keep doing example A over and over again.
     
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    I guess that is one advantage to going to a smaller school. My instructor will show the technique until everyone has the basic idea down. Then he walks around and spends time with everyone giving some solid feed back as far as what you are doing right/wrong.
     
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    Defy Unforgiven

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    i like my teacher.
     

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