Inside the Republican Party’s Desperate Mission to Stop Donald Trump

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  1. Diamond Jim

    Diamond Jim Silver Belt

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    Gov. LePage endorsed Trump yesterday.

    Dan Carlin had brought this up not to long ago. Basically he said we've been use to conventions being a coronation, but in the past there were these big fights and the party has the tools to make sure they get who they want. The downside of doing this to Trump is of course he says screw you and runs third party. But, Rubio has been saying that he will not allow Trump to take over his party. Does the party break? Could Rubio go third party under a new banner of the republicans?

    Imo the most interesting part of the piece. McConnell saying if he's the nominee "we'll drop him like a hot rock." For ones own party to run negative against the presidential nominee has to be a first time. Their goal would be just to save the senate.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?_r=0&referer=

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I did not expect the Republican party to rally around Rubio this promptly. There might be more hope than I anticipated on Super Tuesday for derailing these self-defeating shenanigans with Trump. The Republicans might actually stand a chance of controlling The White House after this autumn.
     
  3. ShoelessRye

    ShoelessRye Gold Belt

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    GOP Senators running against Trump would be the stupidest thing ever - because it would just alienate the remaining Trump supporters who would then not vote for whichever Senator was being so hostile to Trump to run ads against him.
     
  4. Handsomebwonderfull

    Handsomebwonderfull Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    The donors can't control trump. The donors control republicans. The donors don't want somebody in the White House who won't do what they say.

    Trump has already cost them hundreds of millions. They aren't happy
     
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    Problem with the GOP rallying around Rubio is that Cruz isn't a team player - so he ain't leaving. And for whatever reason Kasich is sticking around as well. So Trump gets his 35% and Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Carson split the other 65%. It's almost as if they're all playing for a brokered convention - just making sure Trump doesn't get the 1250 or so delegates needed.

    Here's how they get Rubio vs Trump heads up - Promise Kasich the VP spot and promise Cruz the Scalia seat. Boom.
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Trump is every bit as beholden to the "big men" whose friendship he depends on for influence and power in these elite financing circles as the professional politicians are who require an intelligent administration of their resources in order for the country to, you know, actually run. He depends on loans, investors, greasing wheels with movers & shakers. He's no different.

    He depends every bit as much on these men for his wealth, his empire. He simply doesn't depend on them to finance his campaign. These are two very different things.


    Things that, yet again, the grossly less educated fanbase of Trump appears intellectually incapable of distinguishing.
     
  7. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    GOP seems incredibly dysfunctional.
    Obviously I've got little idea how things are actually looking on the ground, but from the coverage at least, it's hard to see how the election could go their way.
     
  8. AnGrYcRoW

    AnGrYcRoW I've done .... questionable things .

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    The Republican establishment clearly can't stand Trump , a convention brouhaha is a real possibility , a brokered convention , super delegates coalescing behind anyone but Trump , an apoplectic Donald ....could be very entertaining
     
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    Trump would get a good portion of Cruz supporters (tea party constitutionalist) regardless of whom Cruz endorsed. I don't know if it'd be enough to put Trump over Rubio if the rest were out of the race, but I think it might.

    The party's only way to stop Trump is to back Cruz - and they're more afraid of him than Trump.
     
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    I'm really enjoying the GOP establishment in panic mode. Watching Congressman & their reps on all the cable channels still throwing out hopeful sound bites & predictions.

    So funny to see Rubio's campaign & McConnell already coming to terms with the fact Trump will be the nominee bar something crazy happening.

    Also this is really hilarious. GOP donors throwing out feelers for a Romney Independent run haha

     
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    The republicans are morons. They let Jeb go at Trump alone and take all the hits. Now it's too late.
     
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    I still think Rubio will end up winning the nomination. Trump ignored him too long, using him to defeat Jeb, and even cut into Cruz. But he underestimated Rubio I think - he might be the weakest debater of the major candidates, but he's still worlds better than Trump. And unlike Cruz or Jeb, he has the charisma to pull off throwing schoolyard insults back at Trump without sounding lame as shit. Trump should have realized the Establishment hated Cruz even worse than they hate him, and went after Rubio early, letting Cruz slide.

    Trump needs to somehow get a truce with Cruz where both gang up on Marco the next debate - Cruz must realize that the Establishment is circling the wagons around Rubio means he's out of luck as well. Sure the Rubio/Cruz double teaming of Trump hurt Trump, but only benefited Rubio.
     
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    Assuming what seems to be the "worst case scenario" here, that Trump wins the Republican nomination and then loses in the General Election, is anyone predicting what impact this would have on the Republican Party in the next election cycle?
     
  14. OverPressure

    OverPressure Rem Lezar melts steel beams

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    Thanks TS
    I'm still trying to comprehend this stuff
     
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    A brokered convention means Trump runs as a third party candidate and assures a Hilla-bot victory.

    Rubio must have pics of some high ranking GOPers with farm animals. That can be the only explanation.
     
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    PRIDEWASBETTER Whatever it takes Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    What a mess.
     
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    Can't post it through my phone but there was a major donor group that met to discuss running the non trump candidate third party if trump wins. How crazy would that be for the establishment/conservative party to have to run someone outside of the Republican Party
     
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    New Ben Shapiro hit piece on the Donald. They can't take down the Teflon Don no matter how hard they try.




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  20. sloppypie

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    lol, shapiro is such a bore. and what the fuck is he wearing, he needs to be less obvious that he's another in the closet republican.
     

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