Indiana sheriff says he needs MRAPs cause of Afghan/Iraq vets who turn to crime.

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  1. MicroBrew

    MicroBrew Steel Belt

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    So Indiana sheriff Dan Downing says that vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan necessitates the need for Law Enforcement to have MRAPs cause they bring with them knowledge of making IEDs and techniques to defeat law enforcement.

    Has anyone heard a more BS excuse?

    How many examples are there of Vets turning to criminality and utilizing IEDs and military tactics to defeat law enforcement?? I am a news junkie and can't say I recall IEDs being an issue in America .

    Far more likely he wants the MRAPs cause it's a big boy's toy and they get to act all macho and intimidate the public.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cles-armed-forces-leave-Iraq-Afghanistan.html
     
  2. Stoic1

    Stoic1 Boogaloo Time

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    # of law enforcement killed by IED's?
    # killed by veterans?

    Might need some Apache helicopters too.

    Yeah. Figure out how to operate the ones you have first, hoss.

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  3. MicroBrew

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    Come to think of it, LEOs have choppers but they are not armed, so better to arm them with hellfires or atleast miniguns cause it's a rough world out there.
     
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    It's mostly this.

    If you work in government, you spend your budget, plus a little bit more, so your budget doesn't get cut.

    It doesn't matter if you NEED to spend it all, you do anyway. And what better way than spending it on super fun things you and your friends can play with?
     
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    I think the op sums it up about right.
     
  6. MicroBrew

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    You know I don't think that is the issue here,

     
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  8. AgentOrange24

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    Local communities being fiscally responsible then.

    A lot of local governments are swimming in debt, and being able to save 14 to 13 million dollars a year?

    That's a God send.
     
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    They saw in the news that I posted here that the Military is getting rid of 3 billion dollars worth of MRAP's. Police forces want that level of armored transport. Already in the City next to my town they have two Humvees and are trying to get their hands on an MRAP. The police have been for sometime customizing military hardware being returned from Iraq and Afghanistan. Things as small as laptops and handheld therm imaging hardware up to MRAP's. The funny thing the National Guard does not want a lot of them they want new stuff.
     
  10. MicroBrew

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    They are only saving money if they had planned on purchasing said vehicle new from the MFG. Which comes back to the point, how much of a threat are returning vets with IED expereince ?? IED expereince and military tactics is the rationale used by the Sheriff. There's nothing in the news to suggest there is a real problem with IEDs.
     
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    Those vehicles would make very reasonable Search and Rescue vehicles, which most Police/Fire Dpts maintain. The weapons and body armor type stuff one could argue they need to face an increasingly heavily armed civilian populace.

    I'm mostly just playing Devil's advocate, I CAN see legitimate uses for this stuff, but the negatives probably outweigh the positives in terms of public relations.
     
  12. MicroBrew

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    Well here's the thing ; how did police forces get by all these years without such equipment? The public and criminals have had assault weapons for decades , so I don't see how the weapons have gotten more deadly now. Not like there's been a real problem with people fielding .50 cal rifles and RPGs against LEOs.

    The Sheriff is claiming IEDs and military tactics, the former just smacks of pure BS because there isn't an IED problem in the US.
     
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    The fact that sheriffs want MRAPs says wonderful things about where our society is headed...
     
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    I think it's mostly this:

    They need new stuff, or just want new stuff, so they make up some ridiculous reasons to get it for free.

    Maybe they DO need new Search and Rescue vehicles, but instead of saying "yeah, we need this to rescue dumb drunks." They say "we need this for...IED's."
     
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    Obviously American cops need to patrol in Abrams tanks and have drone surveillance 24/7 on the public. Just to be safe, everyone need to have cameras installed in their home to be monitored for criminal activity. It's for the greater good and public safety. You hate freedom if you disagreed.
     
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    They would make horrible search and rescue vehicles.

    Horrible. Top heavy pieces of shit.
     
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    Yeah but what if the forests are full of IED's?
     
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    Think about the damage to the road. Also the spare parts and repairs will be big $$$
     
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    Less guns for the populace, and more for the government? Who would have thought.
     

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