Increased Muscularity vs. Punching Speed

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There has been a lot made of fighters getting slower when they got too muscular. When Vitor was at his absolute fastest punching speed I'd say it was his first few UFC appearances when he was 19 and 20 years old.. The first time he was noticeably significantly slower was when he fought Randy Couture the first time. He was able to mount one of his amazing flurries of punching speed in that fight. There is a lot of speculation Belfort may have been on the gear vs. Couture in their first fight. So in his first few fights, the ones when he was 19 and 20 years old, was he probably natural?
 
Young Belfort has the fastest hand speed i have ever seen, I don't think he has ever been clean though.
 
No

I'm sure there's a vid floating around where he is part of the Gracie chain for a fighters walkout. Skinny as.
 
All on steroids, all the time. Nobody has ever fought naturally.
 
Blackjack said:
There has been a lot made of fighters getting slower when they got too muscular. When Vitor was at his absolute fastest punching speed I'd say it was his first few UFC appearances when he was 19 and 20 years old.. The first time he was noticeably significantly slower was when he fought Randy Couture the first time. He was able to mount one of his amazing flurries of punching speed in that fight. There is a lot of speculation Belfort may have been on the gear vs. Couture in their first fight. So in his first few fights, the ones when he was 19 and 20 years old, was he probably natural?
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This version of Vitor????

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cevo said:
This version of Vitor????

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It depends when the picture was taken. I'm talking about Vitor having fastest hands in UFC 12 and UFC 13. In UFC 15 vs. Couture, he was almost recognizable as a fighter because of the way he fought and how much slower his hands were. If I recall, he weighed in at UFC 15 about 20 pounds heavier than in UFC 12 or 13. What is the date or the fight card from when the above picture was taken?
 
Frank Johnson said:
I'm still in awe of Belfort's speed/power when he KO'd Wanderlei in 44 seconds. Legit Roy Jones level speed in a jacked 230 lb frame.
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No, in that fight with fighters were 199 pounds, visibly smaller than he was one year earlier in his fight that he lost to Randy Couture.
 
.paradoxxii said:
damn, I should watch more boxing matches - this is uncredibly amazing
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If you want to. There are some great fights coming up and some great talents out there right now.

This guy



And...



Are good ones to keep an eye on.

Obviously the GGG vs Canelo fight too.
 
oldschoolmmafan said:
MMA dickhead, this is not a boxing forum!
Also McClellan will always be my favorite boxer, other than Tua. Boxing GOAT... Sugar Ray.
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Some mouth on you considering I wasn't even being rude,,,, prick. Should have said "fastest hands I've ever seen in MMA" then shouldn't you? Kin' 'ell some people really are just born c*nts.
 
Clear Winner said:
Some mouth on you considering I wasn't even being rude,,,, prick. Should have said "fastest hands I've ever seen in MMA" then shouldn't you? Kin' 'ell some people really are just born c*nts.
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I apologize, should have checked your join date. I have lost my tolerance of late with the boxing vs MMA debate and the flood of casuals.
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Forgiveness please?!
 
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