In retrospect, the Occupy movement totally succeeded.

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  1. Forkfoot

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    Everyone made fun of them for camping out and making noise, and when they left everyone called their movement a failure, myself included. But now we're looking at the very real possibility of our country electing a self-avowed democratic socialist to the most powerful office in the nation, whose entire campaign revolves around taking power away from the billionaires and giving it back to the working class. Occupy got people's attention, it just took a while to digest. Despite all the mockery and dismissal, they changed the way Americans think. It's been very interesting to watch this unfold.
     
  2. JosephDredd

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    I never made this connection before. I don't have much to offer on this subject, but I hope this thread takes off. I'd really like to read people's opinions on how we got to where we are and how it does (or doesn't) connect to Occupy.
     
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    Trump has a bigger chance of becoming president.
     
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    They succeeded in making everyone hate those fucking lazy hippies. Burnie has about as much a chance winning as Ron Paul did. Similar type of people riding the anti-establishment wave.

    Replace Libertarian with Socialist

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  5. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog Platinum Member

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    Occupy definitely tried to bring attention to the issue of income inequality and it has gotten attention, though you could also say that rising inequality created Occupy and couldn't help but being noticed.
     
  6. YagyuINC

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    Uhh what? I am confused, this makes no sense. We are about to elect Trump, and he is the definition of 1%er. Our current president is a socialist, not even a democrat. Just a socialist. His approval rating is low, and the economy is at an all time low. The occupy movement was a bunch of ignorant lemmings being funded by 1%ers like George Soros, to spread propaganda...

    Your post honestly doesn't make sense. What you are describing is the exact opposite of what is happening. Again, right now the leading candidate for PotUS is Donal Trump. He has said that we are going the wrong way, he is the definition of a 1%er, and he is not a politically correct little bitch. He is the exact opposite of what the Occupy movement was about. Yet, the country is rallying. My democratic aunt and uncle that adored Obama are fed up with him, and they sent photos from the Iowa state fair yesterday wearing Trump pins. People are disgusted...NO ONE WITH HALF A BRAIN supported the occupy people. Nothing good came of it, and it had literally no influence.

    It was kind of a joke, like people coming out after that guy in Missouri...you can find a video of that "gentle giant" guy beating the hell out of some old guy over nothing. He was a criminal and a thug, and he died for attacking a cop.The same exact people that came out in occupy, were the ignorant, uninformed, racist thugs that ignore the facts and riot in the streets...these criminal thugs make up something to be offended about, and then use it as a justification for them to break the law. Haha it is hilarious, and Soros is rubbing his grubby little paws in glee.
     
  7. YagyuINC

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    Just to clarify, most of the people that support him are uninformed, unemployed, uneducated people that were WELL PAID for those votes...they are brain washed liberal democrats that think someone supporting the democrats will fix the supposed problems. Sorry, but Obama was a perfect example of why this doesn't work. Did he do ANYTHING to help the lower class, or the middle class? Nope...did he raise taxes, against his word. Yep. Did he raise our deficit more in 2 years, than in the previous history of every president combined...yes. Did he help big business and corporations that supported him politically? Yes. Redistribution of wealth, check. Racist rants against white people? Check.

    Our country is in a worse position than it has ever been, why would anyone want to go for more of this?

    For the record, I could go on and on and on about Republicans. The GoP leadership, especially McConnel and John Boehner. Boehner is the Benedict Arnold of our generation!
     
  8. Orange Juice

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    More the latter then the former. Occupy Wall Street was like Bloomberg to large sugary drinks.
     
  9. MadSquabbles500

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    So we are electing a self avowed socialist to be leader of AIPAC or chairman of the board at Goldman Sachs? That is good to hear LOLZ

    joking aside, some will argue POTUS is not the most powerful office in the nation.

    So it does not really matter. Who are you referring to by the way?
     
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    This implies that the wealthy somehow unjustly "stole" power and influence from the working class that somehow needs to be "restored". In reality what you (and every other socialist/statist) actually want is to take some (if not all) of the Billionaires money and give a portion to yourself, while telling yourself your motivations were altruism because you also gave a portion of someone else's money to others.
     
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    Any economic system involves:

    1) The collective creation of wealth
    2) The distribution of that wealth to the individual actors within that collective in specific quantities

    You just like the individual players who get awarded the highest percentages of the collectively created wealth by a capitalist system of distribution. And I can't really begrudge you your preference if you are one of the few who can arrive at a condition of legitimate material prosperity through that system.

    But make no mistake... Your position has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with self-interest.
     
  12. Devout Pessimist

    Devout Pessimist Tragic Vision

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    Occupy was a fucking joke that smelled like shit and reeked of entitlement.


     
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    OWS did succeed in bringing the issue of income inequality into the public conscious. People here may be saying that they were failures but even here you see people use the terms 1%/99%. Of course those terms may have been used before but OWS popularized them along with the issue,
     
  14. second sight

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    this says nothing of the occupy movement, it speaks volumes about the democrats everyone hates hillary including her fellow dems.
     
  15. National Acrobat

    National Acrobat Superstitious Century, Didn't Time Go Slow?

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    There's no doubt that occupy had a major effect on the narrative in this country. Even the last election cycle with the impact Romney's 47% slip had, imo.
     
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    That is one thing I liked about Trump, he killed the whole war on capitalism in his first speech, nobody has even dared bringing it up since then.
     
  17. Sycho Sid

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    What does this have to do with Clinton? Her and BDB vote pretty much in line on economic issues.
     
  18. Orange Juice

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    But not enough to stop the 1% and their Repubs cohorts from taking over the Senate.
     
  19. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    It's hard to say something has totally succeeded when it doesn't have a clear goal or even articulate any particularly clear message.
    It demonstrated just how widespread an expression of dissatisfaction can become in our globalised context, but beyond that...
    I went down and spoke to the local "occupiers", small though they were. They didn't have very much of interest to say. There were the usual groups you'd expect at any vaguely leftist protest (the socialist alliance, socialist alternative, greenleft and last but not least the cliched drumming circle of neo-hippies), plus a mob of geeky looking guys (mostly) wearing "zeitgeist" t-shirts.
    I don't think any of them made any actual political headway.
     
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