In hindsight, was RDA's move to 170 a bad idea?

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  1. The Legendary Scarface

    The Legendary Scarface الله‎ بسم

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    He came out firing on all cylinders in his 170 debut, subbing Magny inside 2 minutes, then putting on a spectacular performance against Lawler.

    Neither of those wins have aged well since then as both guys have been taking L's left and right and RDA has gone on the worst skid of his career.

    It's easy for me to sit back and critique now, but I'll be damned if he ever should of gone to 170. .

    Too small for the division and horrible pressure wrestlers for him sylistically at the top. I feel like he should of stayed at LW and he would be a serious contender still and maybe would even get a red panty night?

    Discuss..
     
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  2. grndzro

    grndzro Purple Belt

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    He simply put on too much muscle. He could have been a lean, and mean 155 champ.
     
  3. Mr hanky

    Mr hanky Purple Belt

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    i dont think he has a choice, he can't cut to 155 anymore while walking around at 185 novadays
     
  4. King Joffery

    King Joffery Brown Belt

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    Course he has a choice, he is only like 5'7" no excuse for not being able to make 155. All he has to do is do some long distance running and he would get back to 155.
     
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    He's only about 5'8, would have better off dropping some muscle.
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  6. WhoWalksWithFergus

    WhoWalksWithFergus Orange Belt

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    RDA is the perfect example to illustrate the point that a fifteen pound gap between weight classes is completely unreasonable, especially at a relatively low weight. He's far too big now to make 155 consistently in a way that doesn't seriously affect his performance, but he's still too small at 170, to the point that he's getting bossed around physically. The UFC's weight classes are entirely arbitrary, they should just fix them at a uniform ten pounds.
     
  7. Mr_Mole

    Mr_Mole White Belt

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    Where did you get your diploma in 'weight cutting'?
     
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    Hunt. Pain is temporary Pride is forever.

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    I have been thinking the same for a long time. He hasnt been the same at 170, he lost some of his better attributes and has to fight bigger guys...
     
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  9. Jarilo

    Jarilo Yellow Belt

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    You guys dont remember or dont know,he had hard times making cut for last couple of fights at 155..One time passed out (alvarez)... He had no choice but to move up,and now for sure he has nowhere to go. And it aint like he is loosing badly to poor competition, even Chiesa is pretty good at ww.
     
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  10. ION CUTELABA

    ION CUTELABA Orange Belt

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    you have a good point here, submitting magny is a good win but no way worth of a top 5 ranking, and lawler has been a shallow of his former self since his fight vs woodley.
     
  11. Reach4theSky

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    We need a 165 division..
     
  12. Harlekin

    Harlekin Brown Belt

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    Terrible move, he is smaller than everyone. Magny just can't move his body properly.
    Lawler's leg was injured badly in camp and he couldn't even stand normal in the fight.
     
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  13. Death By Samson

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    He said that the toll that the LW cut was taking on his health was not worth the money that he was being paid to do it. It's too bad that there isn't a 165 pound division.
     
  14. dipstickjimmy

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    Sherdog School of Bro Science of course!
     
  15. dipstickjimmy

    dipstickjimmy Black Belt

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    The UFC missed a perfect opportunity to have GSP vs Woodley for the final 170 lb title and retire that division and realign with 165, 175 185, 195
     
  16. Kael Rills

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    Na, I think he's simply past his prime at this point.
     
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  17. kickpuncher

    kickpuncher Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I haven't crunched the numbers, but instead of doing it by 10 lbs, why not go by a certain %. Just pulling a random number out of my ass, but lets use 10%. Start at the weightclass under HW and define that limit for weight ins, 205, then anything above that is HW. So from 205, take off 10% of that, and that will be MW. Take 10% off MW and that is WW, and so on and so forth.
     
  18. Mattitude V1

    Mattitude V1 WAR CONDIT

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    This is very much a case of questioning everything once someone starts losing. RDA left LW on two losses, had a resurgence then started losing again. His issue is people who apply pressure and don't allow him to be the one who pressures.
     
  19. Mattitude V1

    Mattitude V1 WAR CONDIT

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    He just lost to a guy who was also coming up from LW.
     
  20. egk

    egk Gold Belt

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    I think that's true too and this fight really showed it. His striking was neither crisp nor accurate against Chiesa. While watching, I couldnt help thinking that RDA has fallen off a lot. Chiesa is a good grappler but he's awfully one-dimensional. His striking looked terrible and a prime RDA should have been able to light him up but he kept missing.
     

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