In Competition vs. Out Of Competition And Why NSAC Won't Suspend Jones

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  1. Pacemaker Joe

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    There seems to be a lot of confusion about what is prohibited when, and what time periods "in-competition" and "out-of-competition" cover.

    WADA maintains 2 main lists. One list has substances that are banned at all times. This includes anabolic steroids, growth hormones, masking agents, etc:

    http://list.wada-ama.org/prohibited-all-times/prohibited-substances/

    The other is for substances that are only banned in competition. Cocaine and THC are on this list.

    http://list.wada-ama.org/prohibited-in-competition/prohibited-substances/

    There are other lists for individual sports (alcohol is banned in archery, for example), but that's not relevant to Jones.

    Jones was tested on December 4th, a full month before his fight. The definitions for "in-competition" and "out-of-competition" are in the WADA code:

    https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada-2015-world-anti-doping-code.pdf

     
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    Nice. This should clear a lot of things up for everyone.
     
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    It won't.
     
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    Hope a lot of people read this.

    Hey Riddle, check this out before you spew nonsense on Twitter.
     
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    Years from now some people still won't get it.
     
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    Great thread and props to TS for going through the effort of posting it.
     
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    This could be stickied for a day or two until this all dies down. Realistically, some people are still going to be angry and obstinate, though.
     
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    Cheers for that, makes sense now!
     
  9. honzo

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    So Diaz was done in his 'competition' drug test?
    I guess weed sticks around for a while even if Diaz smoked up a week before his fight.
    Am I right?
     
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    marijuana can stay in your system for a while
     
  11. Pacemaker Joe

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    Cocaine gets through your system pretty quick. THC is fat soluble, and sticks around a lot longer. That's part of the reason they increased the threshold for a positive test, so that you won't get popped if you quick smoking 2 weeks earlier or whatever.
     
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    I get the rules, I really do. According to the following article, the NSAC is exploring it's options on possible penalties, due to this testing "anomaly".

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...ission-discipline-cocaine-20150106-story.html

    Bob Bennett even admits he knew about the failed test on Dec. 23. You do know that the NSAC uses WADA for it's guidelines but they don't have to adhere to it completely, right?
     
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    Exactly, now you'd really have to be a stoner to fail.
     
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    Thanks TS, should clear things up now.
     
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    If it did, it would've when I did it hours ago
     
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    All these in competition/out of competition arguments are going be hilarious in hindsight if Jon Jones' pre fight and/or post fight tests come back dirty too.
     
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    he was tested again a week later and didn't test positive.
     
  19. Pacemaker Joe

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    They've adopted the WADA list in NAC-467, and don't make any specific mention of cocaine.

    http://leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec850
     
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    makes sense
     

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