Illia will struggle at lightweight

[methrogenn]

Illia has been in camp & has been bulking up for lightweight since Oct 24, hrs been posting his training videos & the guy still looks so small.

Literally every featherweight who has moved up to lightweight has struggled with the power of lightweights, Max took alot of damage in Dustin 2, got dropped for the first time in his fight against JG.

Everyone talks about Volk getting koed in Makhachev 2 but he actually took a lot of good shots in Makhachev 1 aswell, he dropped to a knee in the first Makhachev fight.

McGregor got dropped by Khabib, koed by Porier

Illia takes alot of shots, both Volk & Max were landing on him & neither of them are known for their knockout power. Mitchell was able to take Illia down & even though Illia beat the piss out of Emmett he still couldn't finish him. Neither Mitchell nor Emmett are elite fighters.

Finally Illia already almost got koed against Herbert, if it was any good fighter other than Herbert Illia would have been finished that day.

I wish we were seeing Illia vs Charles of 2021-22, Charles is old now and struggled to finish Chandler, even then the odds for this fight are kinda ridiculous.

I will favor Illia over Charles in this fight but Illia will really struggle against Arman, Makhachev and honestly I even see him having very competitive fights against Gamrot & Paddy.

It's unfortunate how far lightweight has fallen off but Lightweight will still be a very steep hill to climb for Illia, the odds for the fight against Charles are ridiculous but when they finally face off alot of money will be coming on Charles.

 

[Joe.KO]

I think he’ll be okay and I think his KO power will stick in lightweight as well.
But his height is a bit scary.

 

[xhaydenx]

Hilarious post.

Max and Volk were able to land on him because they're elite strikers. That doesn't mean the guys at LW will.

Love your "Every FW who moved up to LW has struggled with LWs" bit. You mention Max struggled against Dustin, who is literally a FW who moved up to LW himself and has been at the very top end of the division for years. Max also didn't struggle with Gaethje at all lol.

Lol at the idea that Topuria would have a competitive fight against Paddy hahahaha. Great comedy there, son.

 

[JKS]

Illia has been in camp & has been bulking up for lightweight since Oct 24, hrs been posting his training videos & the guy still looks so small.

Literally every featherweight who has moved up to lightweight has struggled with the power of lightweights, Max took alot of damage in Dustin 2, got dropped for the first time in his fight against JG.

Everyone talks about Volk getting koed in Makhachev 2 but he actually took a lot of good shots in Makhachev 1 aswell, he dropped to a knee in the first Makhachev fight.

McGregor got dropped by Khabib, koed by Porier

Illia takes alot of shots, both Volk & Max were landing on him & neither of them are known for their knockout power. Mitchell was able to take Illia down & even though Illia beat the piss out of Emmett he still couldn't finish him. Neither Mitchell nor Emmett are elite fighters.

Finally Illia already almost got koed against Herbert, if it was any good fighter other than Herbert Illia would have been finished that day.

I wish we were seeing Illia vs Charles of 2021-22, Charles is old now and struggled to finish Chandler, even then the odds for this fight are kinda ridiculous.

I will favor Illia over Charles in this fight but Illia will really struggle against Arman, Makhachev and honestly I even see him having very competitive fights against Gamrot & Paddy.

It's unfortunate how far lightweight has fallen off but Lightweight will still be a very steep hill to climb for Illia, the odds for the fight against Charles are ridiculous but when they finally face off alot of money will be coming on Charles.

Let me ask you. Have these FWs you mentioned struggled anymore with than regular LWs?? In taking power shots?

We’ve seen a ton of career LWs get dropped and KOd. I don’t think there’s a difference

 

[Portland8242]

I'm seeing a few people saying this and I'm not sure why.

This is a great stylistic matchup for Illia. Oliveira's boxing defense is very sus. Seriously, go look at his losses and even some of his wins. Badly outboxed by Islam on the feet, dropped then finished. Poirier dropped him like 4 fucking times, and even Gaethje dropped him twice in a very short time in that crazy firefight they had.

Although Illia is shorter than those guys, he's a bit faster, certainly more technical, and should have KO power at LW too.

 

[fortheo]

I think he will struggle with the size of Lightweights in the clinch and on the mats, but I'm not sure if Oliveira will be able to make it that kind of fight. And yeah, obviously getting hit by Oliveira is a lot different than getting hit by max and volk. We'll see how how illia's chin holds up at lw If he gets tagged.

 

[Dr Fong]

Looks like the midget fluffers are already gearing up to storm the thread, ignoring the literal only LW fight he has had where he got dropped like a sack of shit against a bum, thinking he will be LW superhero based on absolutely nothing.

Sure, he will probably KO an elderly Charles who will serve up his glass chin on a platter, but Georgian Warwick Davis will eventually come unstuck the more he fights people that resemble adult-sized humans.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I think so too, especially when it comes to grappling.

But we shall see soon.

 

[Black Blood]

He'll do ok but won't look quite so special. There are gonna be a lot more guys who are going to give him a much harder time just due to the size difference.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

He was crazy fast at FW, he will look even faster at LW. He certainly has the power too, I don’t think he will be bad. Max doesn’t have either of those things so it’s a little different

 

[Hymen Crusher]

It's 10 pounds. If your power cant carry 10 pounds then you didn't have much power to begin with. Some of the height might be a problem but he is short at all weights. Short guys are used to giving up height

 

[wolfss]

My prediction is that he will get finished by Charles. Ilia is too small

 

[rjmbrd]

I think he will struggle with the size of Lightweights in the clinch and on the mats, but I'm not sure if Oliveira will be able to make it that kind of fight. And yeah, obviously getting hit by Oliveira is a lot different than getting hit by max and volk. We'll see how how illia's chin holds up at lw If he gets tagged.

In a very weird way, Ilia matches up well with Charles for the simple fact that he gets hit pretty frequently and Topuria is a serious HITTER on the inside.

Its not like Do Bronx is going to dance around the outside and use his length and point fight, he's going to go in the fire because he always goes in the fire.

Arman is a much more difficult matchup for Ilia and probably a handful of other guys who will use their size and length as weapons and be thoughtful about avoiding a firefight.

Opponents who oblige a punch for punch shootout with Topuria are in trouble, I have zero doubts his power is going to translate at 155lbs.

 

[fortheo]

In a very weird way, Ilia matches up well with Charles for the simple fact that he gets hit pretty frequently and Topuria is a serious HITTER on the inside.

Its not like Do Bronx is going to dance around the outside and use his length and point fight, he's going to go in the fire because he always goes in the fire.

Arman is a much more difficult matchup for Ilia and probably a handful of other guys who will use their size and length as weapons and be thoughtful about avoiding a firefight.

Opponents who oblige a punch for punch shootout with Topuria are in trouble, I have zero doubts his power is going to translate at 155lbs.

Yeah. I agree on Charles' weakness matching up with ilia's strength. I do think an all around mma approach-- long range, clinch range, grappling etc etc, just mixing it up-- is a good route to victory against ilia. I mean, we've see ilia against one dimensional grapplers in Hall and mitchel, then we saw him against an unusually one dimensional striking version of volk, then another striker in max. Charles will be throwing teeps, push kicks, raising his knee as ilia tries to bob and weave in, looking for Thai clinch and knees if ilia closes the range, and Charles will be shooting his own takedowns etc etc. He mixes things up more than ilia's past opponents.

I'm very curious to see how Ilia does against a guy as dangerous and diverse as charles. The issue of course is that Charles might get knocked out before we find out

 

[rjmbrd]

Yeah. I agree on Charles' weakness matching up with ilia's strength. I do think an all around mma approach-- long range, clinch range, grappling etc etc, just mixing it up-- is a good route to victory against ilia. I mean, we've see ilia against one dimensional grapplers in Hall and mitchel, then we saw him against an unusually one dimensional striking version of volk, then another striker in max. Charles will be throwing teeps, push kicks, raising his knee as ilia tries to bob and weave in, looking for Thai clinch and knees if ilia closes the range, and Charles will be shooting his own takedowns etc etc. He mixes things up more than ilia's past opponents.

I'm very curious to see how Ilia does against a guy as dangerous and diverse as charles. The issue of course is that Charles might get knocked out before we find out

Charles going unabashedly for wrestling is how he wins this fight. He should wrestle when Ilia wants to strike and strike when Ilia thinks he's going to shoot.

IMO Do Bronx is still the most dynamic dude in the sport (for real) but he has such a wild finish rate because he goes for broke as a matter of course.

Topuria is a really tricky guy to go for broke with... honestly this is a thriller and I can't wait.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Dustin was also a former Featherweight

 

[Chagaev]

The question for me is if he can absorb the shots at lw without being delayed or slowed down.
People say he was caught against Herbert, but Herbert timed him multiple times. Ilia's chin was just that solid, he took one to give one and his reaction time after getting hit was very short.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Toppy is going to knock out Olives easier than he did Jerome

 

[Rapa]

Illia has been in camp & has been bulking up for lightweight since Oct 24, hrs been posting his training videos & the guy still looks so small.

Literally every featherweight who has moved up to lightweight has struggled with the power of lightweights, Max took alot of damage in Dustin 2, got dropped for the first time in his fight against JG.

Everyone talks about Volk getting koed in Makhachev 2 but he actually took a lot of good shots in Makhachev 1 aswell, he dropped to a knee in the first Makhachev fight.

McGregor got dropped by Khabib, koed by Porier

Illia takes alot of shots, both Volk & Max were landing on him & neither of them are known for their knockout power. Mitchell was able to take Illia down & even though Illia beat the piss out of Emmett he still couldn't finish him. Neither Mitchell nor Emmett are elite fighters.

Finally Illia already almost got koed against Herbert, if it was any good fighter other than Herbert Illia would have been finished that day.

I wish we were seeing Illia vs Charles of 2021-22, Charles is old now and struggled to finish Chandler, even then the odds for this fight are kinda ridiculous.

I will favor Illia over Charles in this fight but Illia will really struggle against Arman, Makhachev and honestly I even see him having very competitive fights against Gamrot & Paddy.

It's unfortunate how far lightweight has fallen off but Lightweight will still be a very steep hill to climb for Illia, the odds for the fight against Charles are ridiculous but when they finally face off alot of money will be coming on Charles.

Mate you have no idea what are u talking about stop watching anime and thinking fighter is only good if he is untouchable and if he gets hit then he was never good by ur own logic makhachev got knocked fuck out by 37 years old nobody and then got knocked down by volk who does not have knockout power also got knocked down with jab from nobody also got picked up and taken down by mosies who is not bryce mitchel level

 

[EnthusiastCultivator]

Featherweights have a good track record at 155. Conor, Max, Poirier, Charles etc