If Zingano kept her head... she would have been the first to beat Ronda.

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  1. Killme

    Killme The NoGi Bear

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    Anyone agree? With the benefit of hindsight? MMA math... is obviously no way to pick a fight, so the Nunes win is not the sole reason for thinking this, But Zingano seems to have enough of everything to have beaten Ronda, but instead of being known for that, she is now known for having no ability to plan, or fight smart, or keep her head... but i feel she had the talent to beat Rousey.
     
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    scardera Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    ^^ Zingano went full retard in this fight
     
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    BigMuffler Loli is love loli is life!

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    Zingano isn't as good a striker at range as Nunes/Holm, she's a good clinch striker but Miesha was holding her own standing against Cat until she seemed to gas in the 3rd.
     
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    rearnakedchoke Suck it!

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    If ronda didnt bite carmouche, rr woulda lost in her ifc debut.
     
  6. Killme

    Killme The NoGi Bear

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    Agreed, i mentioned the hindsight in the post... i am using it, it would be dumb not to right?

    I think many were pointing out the lack of striking, against Bethe she looked terrible, actually a little better vs Holm, still awful.

    What most did not expect was that she would think using that shitty striking would be her best plan in every fight.
     
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  7. Mattitude V1

    Mattitude V1 WAR CONDIT

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    It isn't just keeping her head. It's about not throwing the fight by running right into the teeth of Rousey's offense. Zingano would have smoked her.
     
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    Absolutely correct. Classic case of someone buying into their own hype, and not having the self-awareness to realize there was a problem.

    The fact that she's had a year off to really go elsewhere and fix her striking issues, but still stuck with Tarverdyan speaks volumes of her alleged "intelligence."
     
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    Irishwhiskey119 Banned Banned

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    You do realize that if Ronda and Nunes went to the ground that would be Ronda's world right? Even though Amanda is a black belt she would be on the losing end in a grappling scenario w/ Rousey.

    There are a lot of fighters that could beat Ronda if they "kept their head". lol
     
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    Zingano has no fight IQ whatsoever.
     
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    eyenomas Double Yellow Card Banned

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    I didn't need hindsight to know this. That was the dumbest 'fight' ever.
     
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    OverPressure Rem Lezar melts steel beams

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    But she didn't... and got embarrassingly crushed out
     
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    Killme The NoGi Bear

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    For sure, i just mean in seeing a lot of Ronda's flaws since, Ronda had barely put a foot wrong at that point, no real reason to think she wouldn't notch up another win.
     
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    Cat didn't keep her head so why are we talking about it.
     
  15. Mattitude V1

    Mattitude V1 WAR CONDIT

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    Honestly, there's a lot of reason to question whether or not she'd have smoked Nunes on the ground at this point as well.
     
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    please elaborate. Not a witty retort, I never heard of this story.
     
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  17. tombombadil

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    If Ronda wants to keep fighting, I would love this to be her next fight. Zingano deserved to lose for being so stupid, but I think questions were left unanswered, for sure.
     
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    Irishwhiskey119 Banned Banned

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    Not really. If you've seen both of their careers and skill levels you'd know what would happen.

    It helps to be unbiased for thoughts like that.
     
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    I was for sure that Cat was the more diversified and tougher of the two. Turns out that she was really stupid in the opening seconds.
     
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  20. rearnakedchoke

    rearnakedchoke Suck it!

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    Liz had ronda in the choke. More of a face crush. After the fight, liz had rondas teeth imprints in her forearm.

    Liz was happy just to be getting a dining table to eat on, but i think she let go of the choke due to the bite.
     
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