If you're not fighting natty why fight at all?

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Seriously if you're not gonna fight natty why fight at all? Isn't martial arts supposed to be about self discovery and honest attainment? How can someone be a proud martial artist while putting needles in their ass for an advantage? Don't they ever reflect on what they're doing? Do they ever stop and think to themselves "I'm putting these things into my body because I'm not good enough, because I can't be great by working with my natural gifts"?

I would jump off a cliff before I ever fight with the help of skittles. I have too much pride in my natural body and what it can do. If I have to fight someone my hope is that it will be a fight between two creatures as God made them. That's what God would want and that's what an honest person would want.

I've learned so much about the psychology of people who use PEDs. It's not just about getting an advantage. It's also about making up for all the pain they've had to deal with in their lives. A lot of these guys were neglected by their mothers so they take steroids in order to be more muscular around women as a way to send a signal to them that they are now too strong to be hurt by a woman again. It's so sad.

I just want the fighters to compete clean. Lets get back to honest Martial Arts. Guys like Bruce Lee, JCVD, Segal, and Chuck Norris weren't roided to the gills. They practiced their arts naturally. Hopefully this new generation of fighters gets back to that tradition.
 
It's called mixed martial arts, but it's just fighting. Honor has its place but lol if you think that's what 95% of people in the sport fight for.
 
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Bro, for people like you, me and @faustian this makes perfect sense. But don't forget... the average sherdogger is 6'5" 240lbs 7% bf with legitimate fighting skills... and that means 49% of posters here are not up to par and have legitimate reason to feel inferior. It's a cold world man. I can see why natural born betas would resort to the juice
 
Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris and those other guys would all get their asses whooped by Nam Phan.

The truth is it pays to cheat in MMA. If you get caught, no big deal. You sit out but you still got paid and they don't drop your ranking, especially if you win.

Other than respect, which doesn't pay the bills, what do they have to lose?
 
Seriously if you're not gonna fight natty why fight at all? Isn't martial arts supposed to be about self discovery and honest attainment? How can someone be a proud martial artist while putting needles in their ass for an advantage? Don't they ever reflect on what they're doing? Do they ever stop and think to themselves "I'm putting these things into my body because I'm not good enough, because I can't be great by working with my natural gifts"?

I would jump off a cliff before I ever fight with the help of skittles. I have too much pride in my natural body and what it can do. If I have to fight someone my hope is that it will be a fight between two creatures as God made them. That's what God would want and that's what an honest person would want.

I've learned so much about the psychology of people who use PEDs. It's not just about getting an advantage. It's also about making up for all the pain they've had to deal with in their lives. A lot of these guys were neglected by their mothers so they take steroids in order to be more muscular around women as a way to send a signal to them that they are now too strong to be hurt by a woman again. It's so sad.

I just want the fighters to compete clean. Lets get back to honest Martial Arts. Guys like Bruce Lee, JCVD, Segal, and Chuck Norris weren't roided to the gills. They practiced their arts naturally. Hopefully this new generation of fighters gets back to that tradition.

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Same reason you'd play any sport "not natty," to get an advantage over the competition and make a bunch of money.
 
Have you seen what TRT Vitor accomplished? Now look at clean natty Vitor. It's like someone literally cut his balls off. That's why.
 
Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris and those other guys would all get their asses whooped by Nam Phan.

The truth is it pays to cheat in MMA. If you get caught, no big deal. You sit out but you still got paid and they don't drop your ranking, especially if you win.

Other than respect, which doesn't pay the bills, what do they have to lose?
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to some of us,

we still are stuck that the UFC is the "ULTIMATE" fighting championship-

a tournament designed to identify the best fighter out there.

out there, there are people on juice.

its part of life.

fight enough men, you will fight some on juice, and if it scares you, fighting isnt for you.

very, very few fighters complained about juice in the past.

to eliminate it would be dishonest- the world isnt full of honest people.
 
Have you seen what TRT Vitor accomplished? Now look at clean natty Vitor. It's like someone literally cut his balls off. That's why.


which is why we would rather watch Vitor 1.0 than 2.0
 
Seriously if you're not gonna fight natty why fight at all? Isn't martial arts supposed to be about self discovery and honest attainment? How can someone be a proud martial artist while putting needles in their ass for an advantage? Don't they ever reflect on what they're doing? Do they ever stop and think to themselves "I'm putting these things into my body because I'm not good enough, because I can't be great by working with my natural gifts"?

I would jump off a cliff before I ever fight with the help of skittles. I have too much pride in my natural body and what it can do. If I have to fight someone my hope is that it will be a fight between two creatures as God made them. That's what God would want and that's what an honest person would want.

I've learned so much about the psychology of people who use PEDs. It's not just about getting an advantage. It's also about making up for all the pain they've had to deal with in their lives. A lot of these guys were neglected by their mothers so they take steroids in order to be more muscular around women as a way to send a signal to them that they are now too strong to be hurt by a woman again. It's so sad.

I just want the fighters to compete clean. Lets get back to honest Martial Arts. Guys like Bruce Lee, JCVD, Segal, and Chuck Norris weren't roided to the gills. They practiced their arts naturally. Hopefully this new generation of fighters gets back to that tradition.
I might be fooled by your trolling, but Bruce Lee and JCVD weren't roided to the gills? That is the most likely reason for Bruce Lees death, and what most believe is the reason.

Even in amateur junior kickboxing, 99% use banned substances as soon as they start to go matches, because they have to. I would think to even get into pro MMA at any level, you need to use some illegal substance, for different reasons.
 
I might be fooled by your trolling, but Bruce Lee and JCVD weren't roided to the gills? That is the most likely reason for Bruce Lees death, and what most believe is the reason.

Even in amateur junior kickboxing, 99% use banned substances as soon as they start to go matches, because they have to. I would think to even get into pro MMA at any level, you need to use some illegal substance, for different reasons.

I have literally never heard of that theory before. Where you getting that shit from?
 
There is a massive amount of legal shit that gives advantages so it doesn't matter what anyone takes.

To answer your question people fight for money, fame and pussy. That's why you fight.
 
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