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If you're Jon Jones...what means more for your legacy? A win vs Stipe or Izzy?

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  1. FrankDux Purple Belt

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    JJ moves up to HW and Izzy decides to move up and fight Jan?

    What's the tougher fight for JJ and would mean more for his legacy? Getting the HW belt from Stipe? Or hitting the breaks and beating Izzy at LHW?

    Or after Jones starches Stipe, does he go back down and beat Izzy (assuming he's got the LHW belt)...?
     
  2. TempleoftheDog Red Belt

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    The HW title. He already has advantages at LHW. But, fighting at HW is a real challenge. He loses his physical size advantage.
     
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    I think the stipe win means more. Moving from lhw to hw is a huge jump, and stipe is arguably the greatest HW in ufc history.
     
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    What's the tougher fight for JJ?

    Stipe at HW or Izzy at LHW?
     
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    Stipe means more for your legacy.

    Adesanya means more for your WALLET
     
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    Stipe no question very few lower divisions mean much to the big bois and they shouldn't.

    Baddest man is only LHW or HW in all honesty...

    Rest are pretty much jus toys...
     
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    Right now it seems like Jones is fully intent on gaining enough muscle to the point where he would not be able to cut down to 205 at all if he actually gained enough weight to make HW. Not just weight, but solid, quality muscle mass that's intentionally advantageous in a fight.

    If Jones beats Stipe for the HW strap (if Stipe doesn't get starched by Ngannou this time), it would cement his legacy as the greatest of all time (the true GOAT) and his record would eclipse that of GSP's.

    But it doesn't solve the rivalry between him and Izzy, and Izzy presents a completely new challenge compared to Stipe since Izzy is literally the best and fastest fighter that he has ever faced in the ring.

    So, a take here. Jones starts training for HW to gain strength + neuromuscular memory obtained from serious strength training involved, and goes back down to LHW, but he still reaps the benefits from the increased strength from his training since his muscles/CNS would have now been conditioned to generate greater force, thus stronger strikes + increased physical strength.

    Tbh, I am liking what Jones is doing here.
     
  9. Beating Israel just solidifies that Jones is the LHW-GOAT, which is already an accepted fact. Beating Stipe makes him a Two Division Champ.

    The Stipe-fight is the only fight that adds a whole new layer to his legacy.
     
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    what legacy???

    career ped cheat and dirty fighter.
     
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    Stipe no doubt. UFC HW goat vs UFC LHW goat. The one and only time that fight can happen.
     
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    People here would just that Jon beat another MW and Israel was always overrated yada yada
     
  13. Krushey Brown Belt

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    Stipe - legacy.

    Izzy - pride.
     
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    He must destroy Ozzy
     
  15. DestinedAussie Brown Belt

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    Stipe makes so much more sense. Not much to gain beating izzy currently. If he wins it will just be he was the bigger fighter. Maybe if izzy wins the title and defends then Jones might.
     
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    izzy would tko jones imo.
     
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    Beating Stipe. Going up and beating a bigger man as opposed to beating a man coming up from a smaller division...
     
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  18. Fight Professor Gold Belt

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    Jones does not even need to fight Stipe. But he needs to fight a top HW fighter like Volkov or Blaydes. Then his legacy will be on par with GSP at a heavier division and he can retire as one of the best, the GOAT if you do not care about PEDs.
     
  19. Its just zo Blue Belt

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    If he does both he'd be hands down the goat
     
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    Stipe obviously
     
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