If you had all the time, money, and resources in the world, how would you..........

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  1. DKM76 Guest

    breakdown your training. i.e. what percent boxing...what percent muay thai, what percent bjj?
     
  2. bjj 5x/ week, 2hr+
    mt 5x/ week, 2hr+
    weights 3x/ week, as long as it takes
    cond every other day, 30m-1h tops

    burn out or be a champion. pick one.

    all i want to be doing is the 3 F's:. fooding, fucking, fighting.
     
  3. I-Shoji Green Belt

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    If money was no object and I had all the time in the world I'd do:

    Fly to holland 1st week of the month. Train at Mejiro and Vos. find a good local Judo school and alternate days doing MT 3 times a week and judo 2x. Then on the nighs I'd unwind in the redlight district.

    Next week I'd fly back and train with randy Couture doing nothing but private lessons the second week. We'd work clinch takedowns and GnP.

    Next week I'd fly to brasil and train BJJ with someone good in Rio. After training I'd hit the beaches with "Mike" for some "in brasil" action of my own.

    Last week I'd fly to Russia and have Fedor work with me to show me how to tie it all together.

    God I wish I was rich.
     
  4. Freestyler Purple Belt

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    Id fly in my private jet to train with randy couture in No-GI grappling for 3 hours then fly back and lift and rest/eat. Then next day I'd fly over to Cro-Cops and train in some stand up for 3 hours then lift/eat. Next day i wont need to fly but to take my Bentlet over to train at New Generation with Jorge Gurgel for some BJJ action then lift/eat. Id do this mon, wed, fri taking Tuesday and Thursdays to train with Phil Baronis new cardio coach.
     
  5. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Endless time and money is a stupid thing to consider as a fighter. Where is the motivation? To be the biggest asshole ever? What is the goal if not to provide for your family and accomplish goals in a SET time period? Fantasizing like this is a good way to figure out that a person doesn't have it in him to be a Pro fighter, just my perspective. The struggle is the glory.
     
  6. I would take all the steriods and supplements I could get. Take all of my trainers and do high alt training on a mountain.

    4x a week BJJ
    2x a week Boxing
    4x a week Muy Thai
    4x a week Weights
    2x a week Cardio - Not as important because training gives enough cardio
     
  7. i would use asian scientists to develop robotic muscles prediposed towards fighting prowess and they would be surgically inplanted in my body. They would also implant a horse cack and a flugle horn in my left bicep.
     
  8. when you compete in MMA you're going against some people like the gracies and families where they're so connected and have every resource at arms-length.

    i don't see how having to struggle makes it any more worthwhile. the struggle is not punking out or giving up on the mat, not outside factors.
     
  9. Shiroryuu Blue Belt

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    I would have to agree w/ King Kabuki, if you don't struggle, then the achievement would not be as big as it would be if you did struggle. The challenge is what makes everything worthwhile. My psychology teacher once told me "there are ups and downs in life, but without the downs, the ups would not be as great." If there was one thing I learned in high school, it would be that one thing he told me.
     
  10. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Your statement defeats itself. You're going against people like the Gracies who have every resource available, and if you can defeat them (which HAS been done), then you negate the idea that unlimited resources makes a bit of difference in the end.

    The best fighters to me are the ones who came from shit. The ones who were fighters from birth out of necessity, they've more than proven they can hang with the fighting blue bloods.
     
  11. Urban Savage Mystic

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    monday - lifting
    Tuesday - lifting
    wednesday - lifting
    thursday - lifting
    friday - lifting and drinking
    Saturday and sunday - drinking.

    Actually, having read some of the posts in here, going to thailand (MT), brazil (BJJ), chicago (Catch wrestling and boxing) and LA (Krav Maga) to study sounds good too. Eventually though, it would look like the above schedule.
     
  12. the struggle is on the mat. where you came from doesnt mean a thing after the ref blows the whistle.

    seems like you think the out-of-the-gym struggle is training in itself, and i get what you mean but some of us are here because after the whistle, for once in the day, that shit don't matter.

    this whole post is about a theoretical idea saying that if we had no other worries, how would you train. i personally try to keep my schedual as close to what i posted about when i can and if i had the money, it would be one in the same.

    i can kinda get what you mean though. when you fight to keep a roof, those punches can have more than your fist behind them, but to fight at your best, you have to forget about that and relax your mind.

    cinderella man is my fav movie though.
     
  13. judogido Aussie!, Aussie!, Aussie! ...

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    LOL....... but what the hell is a "horse cack"?
     
  14. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I very strongly disagree. Fighting without purpose or motivation as a man is senseless in my opinion, and doesn't constitute a person being a real fighter. Going into a fight with a clear and empty mind is a nice neat theory, but it doesn't really work. When you are utterly defeated, when you're not getting the job done, when you're skills have all gone out the window and there's nothing left to keep you standing but your will, many times you have to search your mind and soul for a reason to continue doing this. If you come up blank because you've had a basically pampered existence, that can be very bad.

    That may sound cheesy but I've always found it to be true. My toughest students and opponents were never the ones who were handed everything in life. Those guys were always the first to quit when things got tougher than they were used to dealing with. Like I said though, this is just my perspective.
     
  15. DKM76 Guest

    having unlimited resources doesn't mean you don't have motivation. Nothing wrong with fantsazing, it helps the creativity.
     
  16. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I wouldn't advise anyone training with me to daydream about having it all and how they would be as a fighter once they did. Let's say for instance you actually work to get to the point where you have unlimited resources and do not have it handed to you. That would mean say, winning a Championship. The life of a Champion is a bit different because you become relatively secondary and the sport becomes primary. You are expected to represent and be an embassador of your respective sport, and defend your title with all of the zeal a Champion ought to have.

    The truth is very few people are mentally prepared to handle this situation because they haven't been conditioned to be in this position. But I don't agree that daydreaming about it so much prepares you, for the reason that it can distract you from tasks at-hand that would give you good lessons on how to conduct yourself once you receive this. Those of us who actually fight are striving to get to that point, where lack of resources isn't a factor, but smart ones understand that depending on unlimited resources is folly, as at any moment you could lose it all and have to gain it back all over again. If you've never been without, or spent your whole time without ignoring your proverbial poverty as opposed to learning how to improvise and make do with what little you have, you'll be obliterated should your house of cards fall.

    Example: Mike Tyson
     
  17. Elpresidente Brown Belt

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    Well said.
     
  18. the purpose is to be the best. having a hard life wont win matches for you.

    the best wrestlers i've ever wrestled were the ones whose family, their fathers, brothers, uncles, and grandfathers wrestled. they were in singlets after diapers and have trained since they could walk.

    but of those i've trained, the ones with outside drama are ones who lose focus in a long hard match.

    striving to be a champion is struggle in itself. you have to fight yourself and the natural want to quit and relax and give up that everyone has inside. working 2 jobs on the side doesnt help you fight. missing sleep at night doesnt help you fight. that shit just gets in the way.
     
  19. Herculean Purple Belt

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    yeah i was going to say that if i had all this fucking money etc , i would just sit back in my mansion , throw parties , drink and eat good everyday with good friends and relax all the time ..

    who cares about training when u got everything you need.. and saftey

    i would train to maintain fitness now and then , thats about it.
     
  20. are you assuming everyone who fights does it to pay bills? 95% of the guys in this forum fight as a hobby, for competition, health, etc.

    if you're struggling to pay the bills, go wait tables.
     

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