If wrestlers make the best mma fighters

[nefti]

Olympic wresting and folkstyle are different. You see high lvl olympic wrestlers take people down but cant keep them down. Thats because in folkstyle you get points for getting up after being taken down and points for dragging people back down.

 

[Grappler111]

Olympic wresting and folkstyle are different. You see high lvl olympic wrestlers take people down but cant keep them down. Thats because in folkstyle you get points for getting up after being taken down and points for dragging people back down.

And vice versa folkstyle wrestlers with not super takedowns skills. On the ground the best wrestling style is called grappling.
Cejudo, Nurmagomedov and Cormier have world class takedowns and upper body wrestling because have freestyle base.

 

[nefti]

And vice versa folkstyle wrestlers with not super takedowns skills. On the ground the best wrestling style is called grappling.
Cejudo, Nurmagomedov and Cormier have world class takedowns and upper body wrestling because have freestyle base.

Cejudo and cormier have a folkstyle base. They later competed in freestyle but their base is folkstyle, the style hey did as children, in junior highschool and highschool, and college.

Kabib is a sambo guy; his father was a combat sambo champion and taught him sambo.

Also, alot of mma takedowns are done at the wall. You do see takedowns in the open but mostly its on the wall.

Frankie edgar is one that chain wrestles in the open very well and has no freestyle experience.

 

[tekkenfan]

Olympic wresting and folkstyle are different. You see high lvl olympic wrestlers take people down but cant keep them down. Thats because in folkstyle you get points for getting up after being taken down and points for dragging people back down.

which is the mma major meta game today as everyone just bellys down to turtle trying to stand back up unfortunately tho u cant lock hands so for mma its a little different/hard
for people

 

[StanClarker]

I think it's a bit of natural selection. MMA tends to be more about physical strength than technical prowess. So we see a number of wrestlers who are strong athletes physically go into MMA & succeed. The striker backgrounds they are facing have grown up on a diet of MMA gym fast food, making them easy pickins'.

 

[rmongler]

MMA tends to be more about physical strength than technical prowess.

 

[nefti]

which is the mma major meta game today as everyone just bellys down to turtle trying to stand back up unfortunately tho u cant lock hands so for mma its a little different/hard
for people

Or they wall walk back up.

 

[The Half Blood Prince]

also if u wen to Olympics or won it that basically guarantees you a good job for life thats why jordan burroughs didnt go to mma cause he makes tons cash just doin wrestling coaching cant blame him as much as i wanted to see him in mma u cant blame dude at al for it

no the amount of money and fame u can make in the UFC if you reached the top of the sport is not even remotely comparable

The thing is these olympians get paid very poorly and once u win the olympics u have to do extra work to get paid such as run a school, tour around the country doing seminars etc.

 

[The Half Blood Prince]

Almost no Olympic champs, wrestlers or judoka move to MMA in their primes. Those years are spent trying to win the most prestigious titles of all.

This is the majority of the case
Sad actully cause then u might wonder how good they could be in their actual physical prime

 

[nefti]

This is the majority of the case
Sad actully cause then u might wonder how good they could be in their actual physical prime

I donno about that. I think in most cases their careers would have been the same. Just because you can wrestle /judo doesnt mean you are a natural fighter. Some guys are just better suited for cagefighting.

Some guys you wish were younger but thats because they are actually good. Yoel romero, pavel natsula comes to mind. Guys who seemed to pick up mma striking very naturally.

 

[ArtemV]

Olympic and World champions (in Russia anyway) get generous gifts. Many world champions get luxury apartments, (or a horse if you're Sadulaev), nice cars and cash prizes.

Putin gave all Olympic medalists a luxury car.

They really don't need MMA.

 

[Fluffernutter]

no the amount of money and fame u can make in the UFC if you reached the top of the sport is not even remotely comparable

The thing is these olympians get paid very poorly and once u win the olympics u have to do extra work to get paid such as run a school, tour around the country doing seminars etc.

Coaching, doing seminars, and working at camps = $$,$$$ per year.
UFC champ + CTE = $$$,$$$ per year.

I'd take the first option.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Olympic and World champions (in Russia anyway) get generous gifts. Many world champions get luxury apartments, (or a horse if you're Sadulaev), nice cars and cash prizes.

Putin gave all Olympic medalists a luxury car.

They really don't need MMA.

Don't forget all the rams local wrestlers in the former soviet republics earn.

Honestly, I love that tradition and get annoyed when Americans make fun of it.

After all, for centuries livestock was the lifeblood of the region.

 

[StanClarker]

Ha, ha Mongler... not where you're concerned.

 

[tekkenfan]

this.. when guys are against the fence and doing legit mma"meta" people who dont train it think they are "stalling" or just using strength to pin them there ect

 

[tekkenfan]

Olympic and World champions (in Russia anyway) get generous gifts. Many world champions get luxury apartments, (or a horse if you're Sadulaev), nice cars and cash prizes.

Putin gave all Olympic medalists a luxury car.

They really don't need MMA.

exactly. also i could be filthy rich and id still fight because i LOVE the art of mma when guys do something just for the money they arnt putting their all into it askren is a great example i feel he doesnt really like mma just did for money and only does grappling ect if he has a fight coming up he prob wont ever touch sub grappling in the gym ever again unless hes paid for privates

 

[SandisLL]

Well, there they later have different careers.
One for example is judoka, get some medals in Continental level, one medal ( not gold ) in Olympics.
He looks that is settled pretty well and respectable: one from his jobs is in National sports council, I really don't know what he is doing for them, second: National Judo federation, then for grading panel ( belts, sports classes, point count for National rankings etc like stuff ).
Also he is CEO and headmaster in one club, everyone in this club is under him, from accountant and trainers till cleaners.
He also is some kind of high rank seminars organisator for instructors etc, with foreign specialists etc.
This all together of course makes high stability and enough respect etc.
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Wrestlers not rarerly does have real degrees, usually sport related. Some connections too help a lot, one for example does have 2 uni diplomas ( each eq some 4 years fulltime B.A ) and M.Sc degree. Sports related, is working in National programm, monthly salary + some related stuff too.
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OK, maybe doesn't looks exciting but they both will be able to work even when turned 65.
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Another stuff, even if it is National level medal, ppl get more connections and may use them.
& Managment and also sport journalism : ppl with degrees are more than enough in job market.
If there is candidate with some medal + degree, why don't offer work him: for business it is free PR& , this impact isn't achievable by telling: our manager, journalist, principal is with M.Sc degree.

 

[rmongler]

this.. when guys are against the fence and doing legit mma"meta" people who dont train it think they are "stalling" or just using strength to pin them there ect

'Man less familiar with details of activity says there are less details to be familiar with', what a surprising turn of events.

Where has one heard this story before i wonder...

 

[tekkenfan]

'Man less familiar with details of activity saying there are less details to be familiar with', where has one heard this story before i wonder...

its weird up till around 2014 really did wrestling start to actually get its due people would say wrestlers were tough but around 2007-2012 almost all top guys would talk about their bjj training most gyms trained just bjj when it came to grappling

when i first met tim kennedy to train with him during one of his camps he asked me how my muay thai and bjj was

weird today at top 10 levels its rare that guys even hit the mat and play bjj more wrestling is used on average today at the ufc level

 

[tekkenfan]

I have known and spoken to two top ten fighters in their weight division, both of them told me the standard pay is $5000 to show $5000 if you win. Reebok kills their sponsorship. Most make very little.

ehh well maybe they were bottom of barrel guy im talking about was ranked around 5th at that time but wasnt a world wide name only i mma fan circles