Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by chaney2363, Jan 18, 2015.
How important was the US to the effort?
Do your own homework kid.
It probably would have played out about the same. Germany was on the down hill anyway. The US just expedited things by nuking two cities and basically saying "alright everyone calm the fuck down that's enough".
i think the soviets would have more territories during the cold war and europe would prob look a lil different
more of asia would prob be under japanese control. tbh im not sure how the east would play out
Soviet Union extends to the Atlantic. An entire world is at the mercy of those godless commies. America's entire economy is based on defending ourselves from them.
Germans as we know them are extinct as Russian infantry literally rape the genes out of the entire nation.
Is the U.S. still supplying the allies?
The nazi's would control all of Europe and Africa obvi.
Would the soviets have survived if not for US lend lease?
I am real interested in hearing what people think would have happened in the Pacific theatre. At one point, Hitler was an ally of Chiang Kai Shek. He ended that when I felt Japan could fight communism better. This happened before US entered the war.
If Chiang could fold the communists into his own, or the communist just give up on their own, Germany may start to help out again or broker a truce. Or the Germans drive the Soviets further east into China, and closer to the Maoists. Being as they are the only allies they have, they may help the Chinese modernize their war machine. If Chiang capitulates to Mao, they may form a united front with Soviet assistance to drive out the Japanese.
Basically this world may be like Wolfenstein the New Order video game. If there is a sequel to that video game, Blascowicz will be assisting the Empire of the Sun launch a final assault on the Nazi Regime.
Japan will be the overlords, and everyone adopts their culture.
Nazi Germany was primarily defeated by the American support on the Western Front. England would have eventually capitulated or been crippled to the point of irrelevancy.
The Nazi/Soviet war would've likely stagnated miserably over a long, long period. Eventually, the Nazis would have forced the Russians over the Urals, at which point open hostilities would end in around 1950, with persistent tension for decades thereafter.
Oh wait - no. That wouldn't have happened. Japan would've attacked the Soviets from the East, eventually opening the way for the Nazis to win. The US ain't fighting the Japanese, either, so Japan is free to barrel down Siberia.
The Germans and Japanese divvy up Siberia between them.
We would all be white, with blonde hair, and blue eyes. Not by choice but thats what the homo Nazis wanted. Thankfully America existed and layed down the smack down. Merica hated by many but respected by all!!
No we'd have to join at some point. There would be no never, not Realistic. This is all saying if japan didn't attack pearl harbor which even if they didn't we'd still join in, but i imagine England would have been mostly conquered which would leave us Iceland to launch an invasion of England.
If the Germans captured Moscow they'd have deal with even harsher more stiffer resistance considering Russian cold weather infantry where pretty fucking hardcore. plus soviet factory where movable an well out of range of German bombers considering they had NO long range bombers. Also Russia had a lot of body's to throw around.
Japan would probably invade new guinea and Australia which we'd have to liberate
Soviets would have beat them just would take longer, nazis didn't have the man power to fight them and win and hold even more land. Home armies insurrections be a pain in the ass always. They had no legit ally's to fall back on.
Europe would look much different and the battle on the eastern front would have probably gone on a lot longer.
Your bitch ass would be speaking German right now.
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
Germany would have lost the war still, it would have taken much longer, and civilian and military casualties would be higher.
After Germany fell Stalin would have attempted march to the Atlantic and bring the rest of Europe under his control.
He would have continued to support Mao Zedong against Chiang Kai-shek and helped push the Japanese off of the Asian continent. Control of Korea would transfer from Japan to China as well as all the other territories. With France falling under Soviet control chunks of South East Asia will be Stalins.
It is hard to say if Mao will think Stalin is over reaching and how much friction will form. After that it is very hard to tell how it will play out.
Not sure if srs...the US offered economic lending that helped ensure the Allies had the infrastructure and production needed to battle the Axis. England was not exactly smoking the competition on the western front, and France was occupied. I'm not sure if you guys think that Australia was just going to roll up to the Pacific theater and wreck shop, or what.
And the Soviets won a war of attrition by having the US push from the west and allow them to fight the Germans at the tail end in their territory. Despite its immense land size, Russia was (and still is) sparsely populated. It's not like the Germans would've had to fight the whole of China's and India's population had they been able to focus on the Soviet bloc instead of fighting a two-front war against them, the fresh Americans, and the re-invigorated English as well.
Oh, and WWK, you do realize that Germany had been toppled before the nukes were dropped in Japan, right?
Japan had a powerful navy did not have the logistics to penetrate the vast distance of the Soviet Union. Japan succeeded against the Russian navy but were humbled in land combat. Japan would have struggled bad without even facing the Soviet army in Siberia. Japan was also spread thin at that point with their reach for oil to the South and their hold on Manchuria and Parts of China were still a struggle.
If it were not for the Civil war also happening in China Japan would have had even a harder time. Moving those huge numbers of Soldiers to Siberia would have given room for the rest of Asia to shore up their defenses and take some offensive action.
ZERO, silly goose. Of course I wasn't serious.