If Ronda was a male fighter,

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  1. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    I think she would be. (Let's play this game.)

    The fighter with the worst striking in her/his division.

    With decent takedown game. There has been TONS of better Judokas translating to MMA with not half as much success as Ronda.

    With great submission skills.
     
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    ScarletnGray 33 Brown Belt

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    This is dumb.
     
  3. SnitchInsider

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    Definitely not "tons" of better judokas than Ronda, sorry.

    Also, Ronda fights women. Ronda also is a woman. What does it say about your insecurity that you need to talk about how poorly she would do against men in order to dismiss her accomplishments? She competes against her peers. It's the same concept as weight divisions.
     
  4. WhitebeltXL

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    Hidehiko Yoshida. Gold medallist Judoka, never won a title in MMA.

    Satoshi Ishii, same thing, never won a title.

    EDIT: just saw Ishii won the IGF title.
     
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    Wadtucket Semi-professional hair historian Platinum Member

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    Uhh

    She's an amazing fighter for a woman

    Das it mayne
     
  6. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    Not really. Not how she would do against men, but if she were a man with male attributes and she would not experience such a great gap in strength and grappling skills in male division, but with her so called once in a life time skills intact, in which I don't see anything much special at all in any areas whatsoever, striking, grappling, or anything really.

    And yes. TONs. Female Judo division is much shallower than Males, and even without that considerations, there has been a LOT. I guess for such a dominant athlete, she sure have a lot of world gold medals. 0
     
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    Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    It's not Ronda's fault women are bad at athletics except for .000001%.
     
  8. Davemeddlehed

    Davemeddlehed There's no mercy in this dojo!

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    Didn't you make a thread earlier about how some woman from the 1988 olympics was the first american woman to medal in olympic judo?
     
  9. Mo8_98

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    'Ronda' is a minset.

    like 'Fedor' was a mindset.

    like 'GSP' was a mindset.

    none of these men were the best anything in their division but they were the most dominant ever in their division. mental game is strong in Ronda. I like that.
     
  10. isnotnormal

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    If Cain were a flyweight...


    See why this is stupid?
     
  11. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    And Listen, I'm not trying to shit on Ronda. She's a great fighter on an amazing streak.

    Personally, I feel she's getting much hype than deserved if based on her skills alone and one considers the competition she's facing.

    Unless you know something I don't know, there is NOTHING special in terms of her skill set in Ronda. That's why I asked, if she doesn't enjoy such a big gap in strength or grappling skills, how would she do?

    I believe, NOT MUCH AT all.
     
  12. JustOnce

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    No, I just posted in it.
     
  13. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    GSP was a guy after getting knocked out by Serra who had to see a psychologist or some professional and threw some piece of concrete block into rivers for some sort of self-help, I believe.
     
  14. Davemeddlehed

    Davemeddlehed There's no mercy in this dojo!

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    I knew there was something dumb about you.
     
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    Keep going. let me finish it for you. And came back and took his title and didn't lose another fight. he didn't crumble. he recovered. that's strength.
     
  16. JustOnce

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    I think she's just overated. Only thing that stands out to me is that her armbar. Not throws, but arm bars, but do you believe that, purely looking at the skill sets, do you think she's much better than other world FEMALE class judokas? Probably not, at international level in her entire career, she submitted half the number of competitiors she already submitted in her MMA career. Or, let's take it one step further, what about world class Judokas, BJJ fighters in male division?
     
  17. JustOnce

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    Well as they say, good people see good people in others
     
  18. TheOneWhoKnows

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    People would have already been proclaiming her in the running for GOAT years ago if she was a man.
     
  19. JustOnce

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    More like a lesser version of Rick Hawn.
     
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    ...her mother would still be annoying.
     

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