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If Lesnar had come to the UFC in 2001

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  1. StoneWT Brown Belt

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    Yeah, the Beast that was so good he was punching Heath Herring in the back of the head. It was so bad that you could clearly hear Heath saying that and the commentators pretended to be unable to understand what he was saying.

    Like others said, it's a choice between a better/longer record from 2001 or more money coming in when he did. I think Lesnar would take the money if you offered him a time machine.
     
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    Conor
     
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  3. VinceArch I am all of me.

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    Fixed.
     
  4. TheChance Red Belt

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    He still would have left a trail of piss from the locker room to the cage
     
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    The fuck he didn't, Rogan verbally submitted in under 20 seconds
     
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    Honestly Lesner was overrated. The truth is we had impressive wrestlers already around that time. Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Ron Waterman, etc. Some of these guys had higher wrestling credentials than Brock.

    I see the same thing happening to Brock that happened to Coleman, Big Nog would have subbed him.
     
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    I mean, sure, at that point who was going to stop him at HW in the UFC? Couture? Maybe Barnett? Coleman was just a smaller version of him with no sub game so I don’t see that going very well for Mark.

    There weren’t a whole lot of wrestling / striker hybrids at that point at HW in the UFC either (which seemed to be the best combination to beat Lesnar). Had he gone to PRIDE instead? He would have probably been subbed by Nog and later on Fedor had he stuck around a couple more years.
     
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    The ones that start mumbling at 33.
     
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    Brock was nuclear then, he would have pissed hot even pre-USADA
     
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    He would have been champ for sure, he beat the current champ who was Randy back then anyways
     
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    He just couldn't take a shot in the face ‍♂️
     
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    Brock would also have 2001 training, which sucked by comparison. I'd think he'd do a bit better than Coleman/Kerr/Randelman as he's bigger and although his striking wasn't good he had more power than Coleman/Kerr. And he's bigger than Randelman. But he'd have way worse sub defense/striking than 2012 Lesnar.

    Lesnar never wrestlefucked anyone with good wrestling, keep that in mind. So he isn't going to get on top of Couture, Kerr, Coleman, Randelman, likely Barnett, likely 01 Fedor for 3-5 rounds.

    So I think he gets submitted by some and TKOd by others with an overall good record. Same as before.

    If 2008 Mir submitted him then I don't see why a 2001 Nog couldn't.

    In Pride I think he gets subbed by Nog, Fedor subs or TKOs him, CroCop maybe KOs him.

    If Carwin beat the piss out of him I don't see why someone like Randelman couldn't back in the day.

    I think he matches up best against other wrestlers with terrible stand up (Coleman, Kerr) and guys he could take down without a significant sub threat (Arlovski, Sylvia, Herring, Goodridge, Schilt, Hunt, Yvel, Igor V).
     
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    He looked great in his last fight standing with Hunt.
     
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    Oh he could take shots, that barrage he absorbed from Carwin would’ve KOd a Ford Escort. He just had a really bad natural reaction to getting hit and didn’t have the striking defense or understanding of range to keep guys at bay once got clocked.
     
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    I would rather ponder about how Lesnar would have done if he had not gotten diverticulitis. He was a monster before it and something less afterward. We could argue on whether he would have been HW GOAT with Cain and Reem in there. But the battles would have been a lot more fun no matter what you think on the end result.
     
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    The fight where he was running frantically. Where you an MMA fan back the or did you just look at his record on wikipeida searched the fight on youtube and hardly glanced through the highlights. Highlights in which brock lesnar was folding and running everytime he got hit.
     
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    False Narrative


    Mir blasted him with a straight left and jumping knee right before getting killed.
     
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    What difference would it make? He came over and took the belt regardless of what age he came in at
     
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    Great post. I think Maurice Smith and Pedro Rizzo would have been problematic for him as well. It would have been like their fights with Coleman (even though Lesnar has a little better cardio). The Kerr that ragdolled Dan Bobish would have been trouble too, but that was three years earlier and he was already having issues in 2000.
     
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