If GSP did return, reality is...

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  1. ingoditrust

    ingoditrust Green Belt

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    He got beaten by Hendricks (in my opinion), and when he fought Nick, Nick didn't put together any kind of a fight for the first few rounds. Once he kicked in though he looked like he could of owned Georges..

    For him to survive against Lawler, Wonderboy, would be shocking now. Also the reality that the current Condit, did beat Lawler in their fight.
     
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  2. raconnor

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    gsp would still decision the entire division
     
  3. Ninja

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    Well since he left there have been new rules put into place so it may be hard for him to adapt, his time has come and gone ...if he wants to protect his legacy ...his best bet is to stay retired and ride off into the abyss like Jared Allen.
     
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    Metallicalabran Don't be scared homie!

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    all three judges scores, for a unanimous decision
     
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    Yeah he was definitely in decline, though still incredible. Reason probably being the knee injury affecting his athleticism and let us not forget he suffered the injury again shortly after retiring. Still I would like to see him return for one more fight vs. Lawler, which I think could go either way.
     
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    emog1 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I dont care what will happen
    I just want him back
     
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    GSP still can be top 3 at least. I actually think if he returns in great shape he can get his belt back. His work ethic is unparalleled + Firas will be in his corner.
     
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    Toxxus The Ancient One

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    I know MMAth is often bunk, but given how easily Wonder Boy ran through Hendricks I wouldn't give and older slower GSP a free pass on him.
     
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    GSP could beat Conor with one arm secured to one of his legs and I mean his left arm secured to his right leg, go ahead and cross his ass up then watch him make a "reality is" statement.
     
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    I do believe Wonderboy with his improved wrestling via Weidman would give GSP big problems, but GSP beats Condit again. Styles make fights, Condit gave Lawler a fight because he didn't have to worry about being taken down. Lawler would give GSP more problems than Condit because he has pretty good TDD/scrambles.

    The fighters who can give GSP problems are fighters who are well rounded fighter. They have to be able to both Strike and Grapple with GSP. That is why Hendricks arguably beat GSP, because he could fight him anywhere the fight went. Compared to the rest of GSP's resume, all his opponents were very good but were able to be exploited because they weren't well rounded. Koscheck, Shields, Fitch were grapplers who lacked technical striking. So GSP makes them stand and picks em apart. Strikers like Condit or Diaz have good striking but lack the wrestling so GSP could take them down easily.

    The guys who would give GSP a fight are Hendricks, Lawler, Lombard, Woodley, and Wonderboy. Because these are the only fighters who can both strike and hold their own in the grappling. .
     
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    Starting a sentence with a hypothetical "If" clause and then following it with "reality is..." Interesting style, mate.
     
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    So once Nick "kicked in" he looked like he could have owned GSP, yet he still lost every round including the late ones? How the fuck does that make any sense? You even saying that makes it look like you just have a bias against GSP.

    Reality is, GSP would likely be champ still if he was fighting today
     
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    Abezal Banned Banned

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    LMAO sure one training camp and he can magically stop GSp from Wrastle fucking him at will, lol let me guess you ufc train 3 times a week right A for axpert.
     
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    if people were to grade the grammar, semantics, syntax, or whatever you wanna call it this place would fail. you know what hes trying to say
     
  15. Takamine86

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    Number one, Wonderboy has been working on his wrestling from day one when he started competing in MMA, not one training camp, lets get that out of the way first. But yes, Wonderboy earned my respect in the Hendricks fight. Hendricks is a guy who arguably beat GSP, his wrestling was competitive with GSP. Wonderboy nullified Hendricks wrestling with ease and finished him. Something Lawler and GSP weren't able to do. So it was very impressive, Hendricks is a very durable fighter.

    There are a few other reasons I think Wonderboy could stop defend GSP's takedowns, not just the improvements he made with Weidman that showed in the Hendricks fight. One reason is a big key to GSP's takedowns is his timing, range, setups from Karate. Wonderboy being a Karateka himself, he understands how to control range, he'd understand how GSP is utilizing his Karate to setup takedowns/striking. Wonderboy showed a lot of great movement, footwork, range control in the Hendrick fight. He is very hard and dangerous to trackdown. GSP is known for his double, he had the best double in the game at one point. But that takedown is very hard to secure against a fighter who is out of range.

    There is also the fact that GSP has had a knee injury and hasn't been the same since. Nick Diaz was able to stuff some of GSP's takedowns when they fought. I'm positive that if Nick could, Wonderboy who was able to nullify Hendricks could defend GSP's takedowns.

    Hey, they thought I was an crazy when I said Holly Holm could beat Ronda Rousey too.
    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/t...actually-has-a-shot-at-beating-ronda.3067465/
     
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    Any version of Hendricks that's fought since GSP retired would have gotten absolutely mauled by St.Pierre. I thought he should have gotten the nod at the time, but now we know it was nothing more than a fluke performance that he is incapable of repeating in the current mma landscape, for some reason..
     
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    LOL at Woodley being included. GSP would shut him down worse than Rory did. He's also a bad match up for Lawler and Wonderboy IMO.
     
  18. Takamine86

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    Hopefully GSP will comeback so we can find out.
     
  19. krelianx

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    Nick had a single moment landing some moderate jabs towards the end of the third round. Rounds 4 and 5 were all GSP. So I don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    This is not quite right either. I don't think you understand what went wrong in their fight.
     

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