If Gane beats Aspinall, does that solidify Jones’s legacy at heavyweight?

[JKS]

Jones has no legacy at HW, he didn't fight. He fought Gane and it was very impressive finishing him like that, Gane was among the best HWs. We already know that Gane is elite. But the Stipe fight really doesn't do much for him, the man was inactive for 3.5 years and his last win was in 2020. And after that he avoided the #1 contender.

 

[flektarn]

he comes back from retirement to beat up the frenchman again

 

[koa pomaikai]

If Tom beats Stipe in under 14 and half minutes would that make him better than Jones?

It wouldn't would it?


To further hammer home the point, Gane had been pro for 4 and a half years when Jones beat him. He will be 50% more experienced when Tom could actually face him.

I mean if Tom lost to Stipe, I’d say with a high degree of confidence he’d lose to Jones.

Remember we are talking about Tom losing to Gane, not beating Gane in a better or different fashion, you are changing the comparison.

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

If Gane beats Aspinall, does that solidify Jones’s legacy at heavyweight?​

No, that would be ejaculating with someone else's penis.

 

[koa pomaikai]

No, that would be ejaculating with someone else's penis.

I mean if you beat Khabib, isn’t that a great win because of the people Khabib beat before?

You don’t make sense.

Beating a GOAT means something because of who they beat prior to losing to you.

 

[nonoob]

I mean if Tom lost to Stipe, I’d say with a high degree of confidence he’d lose to Jones.

Tom's not a POS, he has more respect for himself & Stipe than to accept that fight.

I wouldn’t write Gane off, the guy did fight Ngannou to a extremely close fight.

If Aspinall loses to Gane, does that make Jones’s legacy at HW great?

 

[Hdfi]

If Gane beats Aspinall, I'll avoid Sherdog for a while. lol

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

I mean if you beat Khabib, isn’t that a great win because of the people Khabib beat before?

You don’t make sense.

Beating a GOAT means something because of who they beat prior to losing to you.

Gane is already a big win for Jones regardless of whether he beats Tom or not.

The fact is that this does not prove that Jon would beat Aspinall because they are different styles, that would be mmath.

He had his chances of beating Tom, he should have tried, it's a shame, but now it's in the past.

Answering your question, Jones would be the same size.

 

[PaulieVegas27]

Thanks but, Jones' legacy at HW is already solidified IMO.

 

[koa pomaikai]

Gane is already a big win for Jones regardless of whether he beats Tom or not.

The fact is that this does not prove that Jon would beat Aspinall because they are different styles, that would be mmath.

He had his chances of beating Tom, he should have tried, it's a shame, but now it's in the past.

Answering your question, Jones would be the same size.

Nothing is certain in sports, even an average Joe could get laid odds to beat a world champion.

People who claim MMA math don’t work, expect it to work to a certainty, that’s not the point.

The following statement is true:

If A beats C and C beats D

A will “probably” beat D.

Is it certain? Of course not, but I bet if you run a statistical analysis of how predictive MMA math is at predicting outcomes, I bet it works a lot more than not.

This is why fighters who have MMA math on their side gets favorited by bookmakers more often than not.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

If Gane beats Aspinall, he will look like a brand new pair of clown shoes.

 

[Clark Rogers]

No, it wouldn't change anything about the way people view Jon and his legacy.

But, it would to TOTALLY destroy any value of the UFC HW belt.

Jones haters spent way too much time building Gane up as the next HW GOAT, only to totally bail on him and talk about how awful he was and he was just a gift to Jones when Jones beat him.

If Gane now goes and kills the what would be the great hype that was Aspinall, it absolutely fucks up the value of that belt...

Funny thing is though, had those folks not flip flopped on Gane but just accepted that he got beat, it wouldn't look quite as bad. But you can't go from calling Gane a "gift opponent" to "undisputed great HW champ" without proving yourself full of shit.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Aspinall and his fans acting tough now that Jones retired after years of ducking Aspinall ducking him.

I always act tough cause I am bro

 

[Hymen Crusher]

Man its hw. Do i think Tom's going to win easy for sure. Would I be extremely shocked if he got koed no. These motherfuckers are giants with little gloves, anything can happen

 

[Captain Herb]

Nothing is certain in sports, even an average Joe could get laid odds to beat a world champion.

People who claim MMA math don’t work, expect it to work to a certainty, that’s not the point.

The following statement is true:

If A beats C and C beats D

A will “probably” beat D.

Is it certain? Of course not, but I bet if you run a statistical analysis of how predictive MMA math is at predicting outcomes, I bet it works a lot more than not.

This is why fighters who have MMA math on their side gets favorited by bookmakers more often than not.

Styles make fights, mma math doesn't. For instance, If Gane beats Tom on the ground we could assume Tom would lose to Jones on the ground also. If Tom beats Cyril in the standup we can assume Tom would beat Jones in the stand up because that's where Jones felt Cyril had a big advantage. If Tom wins on the ground or if Gane wins in the standup it doesn't tell us anything about Jones.

 

[r-harper-1]

Jones legacy at Heavyweight = a few solid wins to add to his impressive 205 career

 

[VAfan]

you're on a mmath kick today, aren't you.

 

[cmw43]

What if he can’t take Gane down? And Gane defends like 3-4 shots, would that make you think better of Jones’s grappling?

Volkov and Ngannou were taking down Gane, it's not a rare feat.

 

[GrantB13]

Not at all.

 

[Travis Alexander]

I Had Gane losing his last fight to Volkov. I rather see a rematch between those two before either one would get to fight Apinall. Maybe a card with Blaydes vs Aspinall 3 and Gane vs Volkov 2. Winner fight each other.

What about Blaydes fight this past Saturday warrants a title shot and trilogy with Aspinall?