If everyone goes to college, won't it just be 13th-16th grade?

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  1. Jack V Savage

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    Lower financial barriers without expanding capacity would lead to higher acceptance criteria.
     
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    I think you are woefully misinformed about a variety of things.

    First, do address your point in the OP, the proposal is for the government to pay for public university. Elite students and those families with the funds can still send their kids to the elite private schools, which would not be covered.

    Second, people don't HAVE to go to college, the proposal provides a way for students who cannot afford college to go. Folks are still free to join a trade union or just start working right away. No one is proposing everyone must go to school by law.

    And finally, people go to school to get an education. The end result is a degree, but in case you weren't aware, curriculum require study outside of your major. And lots of people work in fields outside of their major, or they attend graduate school to change career path or specialize. Shit, you can study basket weaving and go to law school afterwards. You seem to have a very narrow view of what people should get out of college.
     
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    Exactly. But it seems some posters think that you get in by applying and that classes can somehow have an infinite size.
     
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    If universities only accept qualified applicants, how is it a bad thing? Does the amount of money you have make you smarter or more qualified to learn things?
     
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    LOL. Jack gets insta-rustled for somebody indirectly saying he missed the point. What a sad, fragile little ego you have.
     
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    I don't know how it really changes anything. It won't have much of an effect on overall productivity. The job market won't get blown wide open, just because people are smarter.
     
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    ???
     
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    I really think that people like TS are slow in the head. Other posters keep repeating how TS mindset is flawed and he keeps on blabbering like a dummy.
     
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    Which is exactly how you think that, say, Sandy Hook was actually an evil Government Conspiracy....
     
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    I think in his rage to get socialism and Everyone gets a trophy mentality mixed into this Byron has overlooked quite a few things. But he also got his education on the net from nutty CT sites so don´t expect to much.. Funny thing is the whole SJW everyone is a special snowflake thing seems to really be booming in American colleges.
     
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    College is where you specialize learning in the field you want to be in. It's radically different in structure to high school.

    And beyond that you should want a more educated America. But you are coming across as a typical conditioned American idiot, and as such fear anything that could be labelled socialism.

    Everyone that goes to college doesn't get a trophy. That's not how it works.
     
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    You just had to tell him to "Follow the discussion" like he's some kind of idiot for simply disagreeing with you. Like I said. Your ability to get immediately rustled over nothing is impressive.
     
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    ....what about someone like myself who never made it past grade 6?

    do i get a trophy?
     
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    No but there are lots of proffessions you could be educated in. With a little xtra schooling. Plumber, Carpenter etc. Not everyone has to be a math genius or rocket scientist.
     
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    The funny thing to me is that the conservatives in this country love to promote the value of competition, but apparently they're afraid of it when it comes to education. I wonder why.
     
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    The Lord is all you need.

    And seriously, 6th grade? The fuck happened? Quit school to help Pa with the farm, or something?
     
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    He was probably 30 at the time and needed to leave to find work to support his own family.
     
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    Why would everyone being going to college?

    Why do people keep confusing the idea of paid college with guaranteed admission to college? It's almost like those people never went to college.

    And even if it became 13th to 16th grade....what exactly is wrong with increasing schooling for 4 years if it means better skilled adults?

    Has no one noticed how many of these arguments are really class arguments in disguise? "How do I maintain my sense of social superiority over my fellow citizens if they have the same access to things that I have?"
     
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